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by Arwan :: Rate this Message:

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Hi

Am new to webERP and still trying out the system, I am trying to create some opening balance transactions from the webERP manual, the part under  

Bank Account Balances and Other General Ledger Balances

Those are the example transactions given, which I enter using the GENERAL LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT RECIEPTS > ENTER A GL RECIEPT, link.
 
Debtors Control 5000          
Creditors Control (2000)
Motor Vehicles 10000
Loan (3000)
Accum Profits (11000)
Total bank deposit 1000

After entering all the above transaction, I use the link ACCEPT AND PROCESS BATCH and the system responds with the message:

SUCCESS Report : Receipt batch 1 has been successfully entered into the database

And the link below:

PRINT PDF BATCH SUMMARY

When I click the link I get the following error

ERROR Message Report : The receipt batch number 1 was not found in the database. Please try again selecting a different batch number

What am I doing wrong ?

Thanks in Advance

Re: ENTER A GL RECIEPT (initial Balances)

by Tim Schofield :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Arwan,

I think you need to be doing this with a GL Journal, and not a GL
receipt. However it does illustrate a problem, that a receipt with a
total of zero is posted to the gl codes, but doesn't appear in the
banktrans table.

I will look into this when I have a moment, can you post it as a bug
at sourceforge.

Thanks
Tim


2008/9/10 Arwan <r1galaya@...>:

>
> Hi
>
> Am new to webERP and still trying out the system, I am trying to create some
> opening balance transactions from the webERP manual, the part under
>
> Bank Account Balances and Other General Ledger Balances
>
> Those are the example transactions given, which I enter using the GENERAL
> LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT RECIEPTS > ENTER A GL RECIEPT, link.
>
> Debtors Control                 5000
> Creditors Control                       (2000)
> Motor Vehicles          10000
> Loan                                    (3000)
> Accum Profits                           (11000)
> Total bank deposit              1000
>
> After entering all the above transaction, I use the link ACCEPT AND PROCESS
> BATCH and the system responds with the message:
>
> SUCCESS Report : Receipt batch 1 has been successfully entered into the
> database
>
> And the link below:
>
> PRINT PDF BATCH SUMMARY
>
> When I click the link I get the following error
>
> ERROR Message Report : The receipt batch number 1 was not found in the
> database. Please try again selecting a different batch number
>
> What am I doing wrong ?
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
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Re: ENTER A GL RECIEPT (initial Balances)

by Arwan :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks Tim,

Does this mean that opening balances for a new company (including bank opening balances) should be entered in GENERAL LEDGER > JOURNAL ENTRY ?

I was following the webERP manual > Creating a New System - where it says:

However, under general ledger - Bank Account Receipts - it is possible to enter general ledger receipts - a button to enter "General Ledger Receipt" allows receipts to be entered without selecting a customer account. The analysis of the other side of the general ledger entries that make up the receipt can then be entered. This is how general ledger balances should be brought on.

I have been trying to enter the new company opening (balance sheet accounts and bank accounts)  balances all under GENERAL LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT RECIEPTS. As the manual explains.
Is this wrong ?

Thanks
Arwan


Tim Schofield wrote:
Hi Arwan,

I think you need to be doing this with a GL Journal, and not a GL
receipt. However it does illustrate a problem, that a receipt with a
total of zero is posted to the gl codes, but doesn't appear in the
banktrans table.

I will look into this when I have a moment, can you post it as a bug
at sourceforge.

Thanks
Tim


2008/9/10 Arwan <r1galaya@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi
>
> Am new to webERP and still trying out the system, I am trying to create some
> opening balance transactions from the webERP manual, the part under
>
> Bank Account Balances and Other General Ledger Balances
>
> Those are the example transactions given, which I enter using the GENERAL
> LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT RECIEPTS > ENTER A GL RECIEPT, link.
>
> Debtors Control                 5000
> Creditors Control                       (2000)
> Motor Vehicles          10000
> Loan                                    (3000)
> Accum Profits                           (11000)
> Total bank deposit              1000
>
> After entering all the above transaction, I use the link ACCEPT AND PROCESS
> BATCH and the system responds with the message:
>
> SUCCESS Report : Receipt batch 1 has been successfully entered into the
> database
>
> And the link below:
>
> PRINT PDF BATCH SUMMARY
>
> When I click the link I get the following error
>
> ERROR Message Report : The receipt batch number 1 was not found in the
> database. Please try again selecting a different batch number
>
> What am I doing wrong ?
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
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Re: ENTER A GL RECIEPT (initial Balances)

by Tim Schofield :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Arwan,

Sorry I didn't read your initial post correctly. In order to get the
bank balance into the GL correctly you do need to use a NBank Receipt
or Payment. What you were doing wrong was to post to the Bank as well
in the receipt. What you should have done is to enter:

Debtors Control                 5000
Creditors Control                       (2000)
Motor Vehicles          10000
Loan                                    (3000)
Accum Profits                           (11000)

which would have left a balancing entry into the bank of 1000. This
would also have allowed you to print off the summary sheet. However I
still think you have uncovered a bug, in that it wont allow a summary
to be printed if the sum of the entries is zero.

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, does this make it any clearer?

Tim


2008/9/11 Arwan <r1galaya@...>:

>
> Thanks Tim,
>
> Does this mean that opening balances for a new company (including bank
> opening balances) should be entered in GENERAL LEDGER > JOURNAL ENTRY ?
>
> I was following the webERP manual > Creating a New System - where it says:
>
> However, under general ledger - Bank Account Receipts - it is possible to
> enter general ledger receipts - a button to enter "General Ledger Receipt"
> allows receipts to be entered without selecting a customer account. The
> analysis of the other side of the general ledger entries that make up the
> receipt can then be entered. This is how general ledger balances should be
> brought on.
>
> I have been trying to enter the new company opening (balance sheet accounts
> and bank accounts)  balances all under GENERAL LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT
> RECIEPTS. As the manual explains.
> Is this wrong ?
>
> Thanks
> Arwan
>
>
>
> Tim Schofield wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arwan,
>>
>> I think you need to be doing this with a GL Journal, and not a GL
>> receipt. However it does illustrate a problem, that a receipt with a
>> total of zero is posted to the gl codes, but doesn't appear in the
>> banktrans table.
>>
>> I will look into this when I have a moment, can you post it as a bug
>> at sourceforge.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> 2008/9/10 Arwan <r1galaya@...>:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Am new to webERP and still trying out the system, I am trying to create
>>> some
>>> opening balance transactions from the webERP manual, the part under
>>>
>>> Bank Account Balances and Other General Ledger Balances
>>>
>>> Those are the example transactions given, which I enter using the GENERAL
>>> LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT RECIEPTS > ENTER A GL RECIEPT, link.
>>>
>>> Debtors Control                 5000
>>> Creditors Control                       (2000)
>>> Motor Vehicles          10000
>>> Loan                                    (3000)
>>> Accum Profits                           (11000)
>>> Total bank deposit              1000
>>>
>>> After entering all the above transaction, I use the link ACCEPT AND
>>> PROCESS
>>> BATCH and the system responds with the message:
>>>
>>> SUCCESS Report : Receipt batch 1 has been successfully entered into the
>>> database
>>>
>>> And the link below:
>>>
>>> PRINT PDF BATCH SUMMARY
>>>
>>> When I click the link I get the following error
>>>
>>> ERROR Message Report : The receipt batch number 1 was not found in the
>>> database. Please try again selecting a different batch number
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong ?
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/ENTER-A-GL-RECIEPT-%28initial-Balances%29-tp19414980p19414980.html
>>> Sent from the web-erp-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
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Re: ENTER A GL RECIEPT (initial Balances)

by Arwan :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks Tim,

I managed to enter the new company opening balances in BANK ACCOUNTS RECIEPTS as you explained with the Dr Balance amount going to the bank account.

1100   Accounts Receivable 38250
2100 Accounts Payable -24000
2200 Loan Account  -63000
2600 Other Liabilities     -33250
1650 Computers     49000
1660 Printers  2500
1700 Furniture & Fixtures    25000
3100 Capital -14826
3500 Profits -11000
1030 Bank Account    21326

The trail balance and balance sheet both show the figures in the correct accounts. All seems to have worked fine so far.

Is it possible to use the report builder tool to create a simple report to verify the accounting equation (ASSETS = LIABILITIES + OWNERS EQUITY), using the above data, as follows:

         ASSETS  LIABILITIES OWNERS EQUITY
1100 account receivable   38250 2100 liabilities  -24000   Capital -14826
1650 computers          49000  2200   Loan  -63000    Profit -11000
1660 printers     2500     2600    Other liab     -33250
1700 furniture     25000
1030 Bank account 31326
=======================================================================
                                         146076                              -120250                        25826
 
Thanks in advance

Tim Schofield wrote:
Hi Arwan,

Sorry I didn't read your initial post correctly. In order to get the
bank balance into the GL correctly you do need to use a NBank Receipt
or Payment. What you were doing wrong was to post to the Bank as well
in the receipt. What you should have done is to enter:

Debtors Control                 5000
Creditors Control                       (2000)
Motor Vehicles          10000
Loan                                    (3000)
Accum Profits                           (11000)

which would have left a balancing entry into the bank of 1000. This
would also have allowed you to print off the summary sheet. However I
still think you have uncovered a bug, in that it wont allow a summary
to be printed if the sum of the entries is zero.

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, does this make it any clearer?

Tim


2008/9/11 Arwan <r1galaya@gmail.com>:
>
> Thanks Tim,
>
> Does this mean that opening balances for a new company (including bank
> opening balances) should be entered in GENERAL LEDGER > JOURNAL ENTRY ?
>
> I was following the webERP manual > Creating a New System - where it says:
>
> However, under general ledger - Bank Account Receipts - it is possible to
> enter general ledger receipts - a button to enter "General Ledger Receipt"
> allows receipts to be entered without selecting a customer account. The
> analysis of the other side of the general ledger entries that make up the
> receipt can then be entered. This is how general ledger balances should be
> brought on.
>
> I have been trying to enter the new company opening (balance sheet accounts
> and bank accounts)  balances all under GENERAL LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT
> RECIEPTS. As the manual explains.
> Is this wrong ?
>
> Thanks
> Arwan
>
>
>
> Tim Schofield wrote:
>>
>> Hi Arwan,
>>
>> I think you need to be doing this with a GL Journal, and not a GL
>> receipt. However it does illustrate a problem, that a receipt with a
>> total of zero is posted to the gl codes, but doesn't appear in the
>> banktrans table.
>>
>> I will look into this when I have a moment, can you post it as a bug
>> at sourceforge.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> 2008/9/10 Arwan <r1galaya@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Am new to webERP and still trying out the system, I am trying to create
>>> some
>>> opening balance transactions from the webERP manual, the part under
>>>
>>> Bank Account Balances and Other General Ledger Balances
>>>
>>> Those are the example transactions given, which I enter using the GENERAL
>>> LEDGER > BANK ACCOUNT RECIEPTS > ENTER A GL RECIEPT, link.
>>>
>>> Debtors Control                 5000
>>> Creditors Control                       (2000)
>>> Motor Vehicles          10000
>>> Loan                                    (3000)
>>> Accum Profits                           (11000)
>>> Total bank deposit              1000
>>>
>>> After entering all the above transaction, I use the link ACCEPT AND
>>> PROCESS
>>> BATCH and the system responds with the message:
>>>
>>> SUCCESS Report : Receipt batch 1 has been successfully entered into the
>>> database
>>>
>>> And the link below:
>>>
>>> PRINT PDF BATCH SUMMARY
>>>
>>> When I click the link I get the following error
>>>
>>> ERROR Message Report : The receipt batch number 1 was not found in the
>>> database. Please try again selecting a different batch number
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong ?
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/ENTER-A-GL-RECIEPT-%28initial-Balances%29-tp19414980p19414980.html
>>> Sent from the web-erp-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
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