EFW 2.2 Commercial vs. Community feature comparison inquiry...

[toby-35]

Hi all,

 

In past releases have the commercial features the community version lacks been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2 commercial has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group based web policies, policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions. These are features I'm interested in and wanted to know how strong the community is about bringing the "free" version up to the level of the "pay" version.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Toby.

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[Gregory Machin-3]

Would be grate ..
But then why buy the "pay" version .. thats why Endian keep a tight wrap
on their source code and only release when they feel it's safe for them
to do so .. The community on this project is mostly for debugging. would
be grate to have a more active community and have more access to the
latest code en devel tools. The project would evolve faster bugs would
be found quicker etc ...
just my 10c worth

toby wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> In past releases have the commercial features the community version
> lacks been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2
> commercial has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group
> based web policies, policy based routing, and url blacklist
> definitions. These are features I'm interested in and wanted to know
> how strong the community is about bringing the "free" version up to
> the level of the "pay" version.
>  
> Thanks in advance!
>  
> Toby.
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[Ed Palma]

I think the idea is that the next big project is moving Endian to a  
public SVN as soon as community 2.2 is finally complete.  That's what  
I heard.  I think they were thinking about starting in November but  
I'd not be surprised if the devs were a touch late.  Anyone have more  
details?

Endian is pretty handy, but it's progress is slow and inconvenient  
because development is essentially closed source.  I think they know  
if they continue this way they'll eventually be forked into a better  
genuinely open distribution.  Might as well maintain control of the  
project.  I'm praying for SVN.

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[Gregory Machin-3]

Ed Palma wrote:

> I think the idea is that the next big project is moving Endian to a  
> public SVN as soon as community 2.2 is finally complete.  That's what  
> I heard.  I think they were thinking about starting in November but  
> I'd not be surprised if the devs were a touch late.  Anyone have more  
> details?
>
> Endian is pretty handy, but it's progress is slow and inconvenient  
> because development is essentially closed source.  I think they know  
> if they continue this way they'll eventually be forked into a better  
> genuinely open distribution.  Might as well maintain control of the  
> project.  I'm praying for SVN.
>
>  

I've been considering the fork-ing option for a long time now. Would be
a pity to have to do it ..

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[toby-35]

Thanks for the replies all. Guess all we can do now is wait and see what Endian will do regarding SVN.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:58 AM, Gregory Machin <greg@...> wrote:

Ed Palma wrote:
> I think the idea is that the next big project is moving Endian to a
> public SVN as soon as community 2.2 is finally complete.  That's what
> I heard.  I think they were thinking about starting in November but
> I'd not be surprised if the devs were a touch late.  Anyone have more
> details?
>
> Endian is pretty handy, but it's progress is slow and inconvenient
> because development is essentially closed source.  I think they know
> if they continue this way they'll eventually be forked into a better
> genuinely open distribution.  Might as well maintain control of the
> project.  I'm praying for SVN.
>
>

I've been considering the fork-ing option for a long time now. Would be
a pity to have to do it ..

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[Neobiker]

The Source-Pakages for 2.2RC2 are available for download at endian...!
regards neobiker

toby-35 wrote:

Hi all,

In past releases have the commercial features the community version lacks
been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2 commercial
has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group based web policies,
policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions. These are features I'm
interested in and wanted to know how strong the community is about bringing
the "free" version up to the level of the "pay" version.

Thanks in advance!

Toby.

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[Jorge Schrauwen-3]

Is there a kernel config in there somewhere? to compare to my custom gentoo-xen one?

~Jorge

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Neobiker <neo-ml-efw-1106@...> wrote:

The Source-Pakages for 2.2RC2 are available for download at endian...!
regards neobiker


toby-35 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> In past releases have the commercial features the community version lacks
> been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2
> commercial
> has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group based web
> policies,
> policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions. These are features
> I'm
> interested in and wanted to know how strong the community is about
> bringing
> the "free" version up to the level of the "pay" version.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Toby.
>
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[Ed Palma]

Sneaky sneaky!  Says released July 25th.  Many kudos and thanks to the  
devs!

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[Neobiker]

for a xen-kernel look at http://www.neobiker.de/ftp/pub/efw-xen
i've compiled a FC8 XEN kernel to work with efw 2.2.
also look here to see how to get it working: http://www.ctserver.org/fpost15102.html#15102

regards
neobiker

Jorge Schrauwen-3 wrote:

Is there a kernel config in there somewhere? to compare to my custom
gentoo-xen one?

~Jorge


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Neobiker <[e-mail]>wrote:

>
> The Source-Pakages for 2.2RC2 are available for download at endian...!
> regards neobiker
>
>
> toby-35 wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In past releases have the commercial features the community version lacks
> > been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2
> > commercial
> > has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group based web
> > policies,
> > policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions. These are features
> > I'm
> > interested in and wanted to know how strong the community is about
> > bringing
> > the "free" version up to the level of the "pay" version.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Toby.
> >
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[Jorge Schrauwen-3]

Sadly that one didn't work. I got it running on one I compiled myself. Not had any problems sofar... but would be nice to make sure I didn't leave anything out :)

~Jorge

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Neobiker <neo-ml-efw-1106@...> wrote:

for a xen-kernel look at http://www.neobiker.de/ftp/pub/efw-xen
i've compiled a FC8 XEN kernel to work with efw 2.2.
also look here to see how to get it working:
http://www.ctserver.org/fpost15102.html#15102

regards
neobiker


Jorge Schrauwen-3 wrote:
>
> Is there a kernel config in there somewhere? to compare to my custom
> gentoo-xen one?
>
> ~Jorge
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Neobiker
> <neo-ml-efw-1106@...>wrote:
>
>>
>> The Source-Pakages for 2.2RC2 are available for download at endian...!
>> regards neobiker
>>
>>
>> toby-35 wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > In past releases have the commercial features the community version
>> lacks
>> > been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2
>> > commercial
>> > has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group based web
>> > policies,
>> > policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions. These are features
>> > I'm
>> > interested in and wanted to know how strong the community is about
>> > bringing
>> > the "free" version up to the level of the "pay" version.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > Toby.
>> >
>> >
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[Neobiker]

it is a i686-PAE-Kernel, as most distro's are using PAE now...

Jorge Schrauwen-3 wrote:

Sadly that one didn't work. I got it running on one I compiled myself. Not
had any problems sofar... but would be nice to make sure I didn't leave
anything out :)

~Jorge


On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Neobiker <[e-mail]>wrote:

>
> for a xen-kernel look at http://www.neobiker.de/ftp/pub/efw-xen
> i've compiled a FC8 XEN kernel to work with efw 2.2.
> also look here to see how to get it working:
> http://www.ctserver.org/fpost15102.html#15102
>
> regards
> neobiker
>
>
> Jorge Schrauwen-3 wrote:
> >
> > Is there a kernel config in there somewhere? to compare to my custom
> > gentoo-xen one?
> >
> > ~Jorge
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Neobiker
> > <[e-mail]>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The Source-Pakages for 2.2RC2 are available for download at endian...!
> >> regards neobiker
> >>
> >>
> >> toby-35 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > In past releases have the commercial features the community version
> >> lacks
> >> > been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2
> >> > commercial
> >> > has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group based web
> >> > policies,
> >> > policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions. These are
> features
> >> > I'm
> >> > interested in and wanted to know how strong the community is about
> >> > bringing
> >> > the "free" version up to the level of the "pay" version.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance!
> >> >
> >> > Toby.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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[Jorge Schrauwen-3]

Yes but I was more aiming at the netfilter and network related modules.

currently I selected all I could find (that was network related except the depricated stuff). I'm not sure if trimming it down to the stuff endian actually uses will matter or not but I like to cut out as much bloat as I can :)

~Jorge

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Neobiker <neo-ml-efw-1106@...> wrote:

it is a i686-PAE-Kernel, as most distro's are using PAE now...

Jorge Schrauwen-3 wrote:
>
> Sadly that one didn't work. I got it running on one I compiled myself. Not
> had any problems sofar... but would be nice to make sure I didn't leave
> anything out :)
>
> ~Jorge
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Neobiker
> <neo-ml-efw-1106@...>wrote:
>
>>
>> for a xen-kernel look at http://www.neobiker.de/ftp/pub/efw-xen
>> i've compiled a FC8 XEN kernel to work with efw 2.2.
>> also look here to see how to get it working:
>> http://www.ctserver.org/fpost15102.html#15102
>>
>> regards
>> neobiker
>>
>>
>> Jorge Schrauwen-3 wrote:
>> >
>> > Is there a kernel config in there somewhere? to compare to my custom
>> > gentoo-xen one?
>> >
>> > ~Jorge
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Neobiker
>> > <neo-ml-efw-1106@...>wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The Source-Pakages for 2.2RC2 are available for download at endian...!
>> >> regards neobiker
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> toby-35 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > In past releases have the commercial features the community version
>> >> lacks
>> >> > been developed by the community for the community? I noticed 2.2
>> >> > commercial
>> >> > has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group based web
>> >> > policies,
>> >> > policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions. These are
>> features
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > interested in and wanted to know how strong the community is about
>> >> > bringing
>> >> > the "free" version up to the level of the "pay" version.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance!
>> >> >
>> >> > Toby.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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[compdoc]

Xen is great!


-----Original Message-----
From: efw-user-bounces@...
[mailto:efw-user-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Neobiker
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:28 PM
To: efw-user@...
Subject: Re: [Efw-user] EFW 2.2 Commercial vs. Community
feature comparison inquiry...


for a xen-kernel look at
http://www.neobiker.de/ftp/pub/efw-xen
i've compiled a FC8 XEN kernel to work with efw 2.2.
also look here to see how to get it working:
http://www.ctserver.org/fpost15102.html#15102

regards
neobiker


Jorge Schrauwen-3 wrote:
>
> Is there a kernel config in there somewhere? to compare to
my custom

> gentoo-xen one?
>
> ~Jorge
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Neobiker
> <neo-ml-efw-1106@...>wrote:
>
>>
>> The Source-Pakages for 2.2RC2 are available for download

at endian...!
>> regards neobiker
>>
>>
>> toby-35 wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > In past releases have the commercial features the
community version
>> lacks
>> > been developed by the community for the community? I
noticed 2.2
>> > commercial
>> > has live ajax log viewer, user based web reports, group
based web
>> > policies,
>> > policy based routing, and url blacklist definitions.
These are features
>> > I'm
>> > interested in and wanted to know how strong the
community is about
>> > bringing
>> > the "free" version up to the level of the "pay"
version.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > Toby.
>> >
>> >
>>
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