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ECHO ProtocolAll,
I am checking the ICMP protocol these days and some documents say that Ping command in Windows uses ICMP protocol, while others say that Ping uses ECHO protocol, which is through TCP port 7.
So my question is which protocol is actually used by PING command in Windows?
Pengy
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Re: ECHO ProtocolOn Thu, 26 Jun 2008, peng liu wrote:
> So my question is which protocol is actually used by PING command in > Windows? There is no real substitute for actual verification: http://www.wireshark.org/ Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions paul@... which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." http://www.fluiditgroup.com/blog/pdr/ Art: http://PaulDRobertson.imagekind.com/ _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards@... https://listserv.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards |
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Re: ECHO ProtocolIn ICMP terminology, "echo" is what we normally call "ping". So "uses
ECHO protocol" might just be another way of saying that it uses ICMP. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol#List_of_permitted_control_messages_.28incomplete_list.29 & search for "Echo Request" & "Echo Reply". ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Haim (Howard) Roman Computer Center, Jerusalem College of Technology roman@... Phone: 052-8-592-599 (6022 from within Machon Lev) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [fw-wiz] ECHO Protocol From: peng liu <cleverpigboy@...> To: firewall-wizards@... Date: Thu Jun 26 2008 13:00:03 GMT+0300 (IDT) > All, > > I am checking the ICMP protocol these days and some documents say that > Ping command in Windows uses ICMP protocol, while others say that Ping > uses ECHO protocol, which is through TCP port 7. > > So my question is which protocol is actually used by PING command in > Windows? > > Pengy > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > firewall-wizards mailing list > firewall-wizards@... > https://listserv.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards > _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards@... https://listserv.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards |
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Re: ECHO ProtocolI agree with Paul, no real substitute for actual verification ! however this would be ICMP Code 0 Type 8 packet. Thanks, Aditya Govind Mukadam On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Paul D. Robertson <paul@...> wrote:
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Re: ECHO ProtocolQuoting peng liu <cleverpigboy@...>:
> OK. This is the tricky part since ICMP is built basd on IP protocol and it > works on thesame layer as TCP/UDP. Then why my local services file contains: > > echo 7/tcp > echo 7/udp This is the echo daemon, see http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc862.html for details. > > So the echo here is different than the Echo, Echo-reply protocol we are > talking here? The ping command uses ICMP in Windows. Yes, I know that there are alternate "ping" programs that will allow you to use TCP, UDP or possibly anything that programmer could think of, but the traditional ping uses ICMP. Two of the ICMP types are referred to as echo and echo reply, which are the ICMP types used for ping. See the ICMP RFC (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc792.html) for more detailed information. > > > On 6/30/08, Keith A. Glass <salgak@...> wrote: >> >> Echo is a specific member of the ICMP family of protocols. But not the >> ONLY member. . . >> >> Ping is typically Echo and Echo-reply. >> >> Hope that clears it up >> >> >> Keith >> >> Security Geek * Curmudgeon at Large * Short on Sleep >> >> On Thu Jun 26 6:00 , "peng liu" sent: >> >> >All, >> > >> >I am checking the ICMP protocol these days and some documents say that >> Ping command in Windows uses ICMP protocol, while others say that Ping uses >> ECHO protocol, which is through TCP port 7. >> > >> >So my question is which protocol is actually used by PING command in >> Windows? >> > >> >Pengy >> >> > -- Tim Donahue ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards@... https://listserv.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards |
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