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by Grant Ransom :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,
I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
with 10.5.
Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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The demo is not UB (Universal Binary) which means that the intel mac  
is emulating the powerpc architecture "under the hood" and thus  
taxing your system.

The only solution would be Clavia releasing a UB demo (and editor,  
BTW) or getting more powerful hardware :(

Sorry about that. The first rule of intelmac migration is to make  
sure that your apps have native versions. It seems that you just  
discovered this in quite a nasty way. :(


El 27/11/2007, a las 13:02, Grant Ransom escribió:

> Hi,
> I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
> not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
> with 10.5.
> Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
> the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
> The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
> of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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Is there any knowledge on when a UB (maybe even Leopard-compatible) of  
the editor may become available? It's been over 2 years since I've  
seen UB's start to appear. Isn't the G2 a "supported" product?


On 27-Nov-07, at 9:05 AM, Pere Amengual aka Pedro Trotz wrote:

> The demo is not UB (Universal Binary) which means that the intel mac
> is emulating the powerpc architecture "under the hood" and thus
> taxing your system.
>
> The only solution would be Clavia releasing a UB demo (and editor,
> BTW) or getting more powerful hardware :(
>
> Sorry about that. The first rule of intelmac migration is to make
> sure that your apps have native versions. It seems that you just
> discovered this in quite a nasty way. :(
>
>
> El 27/11/2007, a las 13:02, Grant Ransom escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
>> not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
>> with 10.5.
>> Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
>> the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
>> The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
>> of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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Hi Grant
The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.

Cheers

             7uke.

Grant Ransom wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
> not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
> with 10.5.
> Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
> the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
> The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
> of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:05:40 +0100, Pere Amengual aka Pedro Trotz  
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> The demo is not UB (Universal Binary) which means that the intel mac
> is emulating the powerpc architecture "under the hood" and thus
> taxing your system.

Yes, I had a feeling this may be the case. I just hope'd they'd forgotten  
to mention it on the D/L page, which I have seen before.

>
> The only solution would be Clavia releasing a UB demo (and editor,
> BTW)or getting more powerful hardware :(

LOL, this is a 2.16 dual. I ain't getting another one for a long while.

>
> Sorry about that. The first rule of intelmac migration is to make
> sure that your apps have native versions. It seems that you just
> discovered this in quite a nasty way. :(

Well, this is a Laptop, not selected for use in the studio or a real  
migration per-se...
What I think I really discovered, was that Clavia still don't update their  
software as often as everyone else.

Actually, none of the software on this machine is native, except the  
browser and "bundled" stuff.
This has been the first problem.

Anyhow,
Thx,
Grant.


>
>
> El 27/11/2007, a las 13:02, Grant Ransom escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
>> not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
>> with 10.5.
>> Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
>> the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
>> The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
>> of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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A bit slow on that one wasn't i? :)


Disjunction wrote:
Hi Grant
The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the 
newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.

Cheers

             7uke.

Grant Ransom wrote:
  
Hi,
I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
with 10.5.
Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:52:45 +0100, Disjunction  
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> A bit slow on that one wasn't i? :)

Not sure exactly what you mean, but thanks for the reply. :-)
And to the others!

Grant.

>
>
> Disjunction wrote:
>> Hi Grant
>> The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
>> newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
>> There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>              7uke.
>>
>> Grant Ransom wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
>>> not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
>>> with 10.5.
>>> Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
>>> the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
>>> The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
>>> of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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Re: [NM] Demo editor performance on macintel It’s far from a perfect solution but you could try using the Windows version running on Windows XP inside a Virtual Machine hosted on either Vmware’s Fusion or the Parallels product.


On 27/11/07 22:52, "Disjunction" <disjunction@...> wrote:

A bit slow on that one wasn't i? :)


Disjunction wrote:

Hi Grant
The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.

Cheers

             7uke.

Grant Ransom wrote:
  
 

Hi,
I've been editing sounds up on a powerbook G4 when I'm
not in the studio, then just moved to an intel mac
with 10.5.
Patches seem to be crapping out, which were fine on
the G4. (Audio SR at 44.1).
The demo has become a serious tool for me, anyone know
of tweaks to get the performance back?
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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:43, Disjunction wrote:

> Hi Grant
> The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
> newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
> There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.
>
> Cheers

Well Clavia could pull their finger out their ass :)

Unfortunately their recent product line-up, including the pedestrian  
Wave, makes me think this is unlikely.
Unless they are a company with some kind of bi-polar disorder. Here's  
hoping.

S

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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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I thought the wave was pretty neat-looking.  Supposedly the best mellotron samples since the mellotron.  Of course, I'd never buy one -- the nord modular has ruined every other synthesizer out there for me.  Buying my nm saved me so much money over the past 8 or 9 years (wow, I guess this is the longest relationship I've had).  I don't lust after other synths the way I did before.  I can't deal with hard-wired, unyielding synths!

On 11/27/07, Steven Taylor <steev@...> wrote:

On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:43, Disjunction wrote:

> Hi Grant
> The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
> newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
> There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.
>
> Cheers

Well Clavia could pull their finger out their ass :)

Unfortunately their recent product line-up, including the pedestrian
Wave, makes me think this is unlikely.
Unless they are a company with some kind of bi-polar disorder. Here's
hoping.

S

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Re: Demo editor performance on macintel

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As i understand it, Clavia's Modular synths have never been the products that make them the money.
I think most will agree that the Nord Lead  series were the synths that they are best known for.
The Wave is an extension of that range.

The G2 Demo was only meant to entice you to buy a G2.
Should we really expect them to update it too often?

I see myself as lucky to have a G2 at all. I recently returned to the Nord modular world by performing  a live set with just a G2, midi controller and an Anlogue bassline.
it was very enjoyable and man did it slam compared to all of the crappy Ableton sets I've been hearing for the last couple of years.
Sure it took me a month to set up so that i have the versatility that i wanted, but it really was worth it.
I even routed the bassline through the G2 for processing.
No computer screens, just my machines and a ancient peavy pc1600 midi controller.
I couldn't do that with a Nord Lead/Wave.

Cheers
             7uke.

Steven Taylor wrote:
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:43, Disjunction wrote:

  
Hi Grant
The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.

Cheers
    

Well Clavia could pull their finger out their ass :)

Unfortunately their recent product line-up, including the pedestrian  
Wave, makes me think this is unlikely.
Unless they are a company with some kind of bi-polar disorder. Here's  
hoping.

S

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The nord modular is like "finnegan's wake" in a world that reads "the da vinci code."

On 11/27/07, Disjunction <disjunction@...> wrote:
As i understand it, Clavia's Modular synths have never been the products that make them the money.
I think most will agree that the Nord Lead  series were the synths that they are best known for.
The Wave is an extension of that range.

The G2 Demo was only meant to entice you to buy a G2.
Should we really expect them to update it too often?

I see myself as lucky to have a G2 at all. I recently returned to the Nord modular world by performing  a live set with just a G2, midi controller and an Anlogue bassline.
it was very enjoyable and man did it slam compared to all of the crappy Ableton sets I've been hearing for the last couple of years.
Sure it took me a month to set up so that i have the versatility that i wanted, but it really was worth it.
I even routed the bassline through the G2 for processing.
No computer screens, just my machines and a ancient peavy pc1600 midi controller.
I couldn't do that with a Nord Lead/Wave.

Cheers
             7uke.


Steven Taylor wrote:
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:43, Disjunction wrote:

  
Hi Grant
The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.

Cheers
    
Well Clavia could pull their finger out their ass :)

Unfortunately their recent product line-up, including the pedestrian  
Wave, makes me think this is unlikely.
Unless they are a company with some kind of bi-polar disorder. Here's  
hoping.

S

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LOL.

Michel Foucault VS Dr Phil.

7.

Matthew Wright wrote:
The nord modular is like "finnegan's wake" in a world that reads "the da vinci code."

On 11/27/07, Disjunction <disjunction@...> wrote:
As i understand it, Clavia's Modular synths have never been the products that make them the money.
I think most will agree that the Nord Lead  series were the synths that they are best known for.
The Wave is an extension of that range.

The G2 Demo was only meant to entice you to buy a G2.
Should we really expect them to update it too often?

I see myself as lucky to have a G2 at all. I recently returned to the Nord modular world by performing  a live set with just a G2, midi controller and an Anlogue bassline.
it was very enjoyable and man did it slam compared to all of the crappy Ableton sets I've been hearing for the last couple of years.
Sure it took me a month to set up so that i have the versatility that i wanted, but it really was worth it.
I even routed the bassline through the G2 for processing.
No computer screens, just my machines and a ancient peavy pc1600 midi controller.
I couldn't do that with a Nord Lead/Wave.

Cheers
             7uke.


Steven Taylor wrote:
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:43, Disjunction wrote:

  
Hi Grant
The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.

Cheers
    
Well Clavia could pull their finger out their ass :)

Unfortunately their recent product line-up, including the pedestrian  
Wave, makes me think this is unlikely.
Unless they are a company with some kind of bi-polar disorder. Here's  
hoping.

S

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Dr Phil...LOL!

On 11/27/07, Disjunction <disjunction@...> wrote:
LOL.

Michel Foucault VS Dr Phil.

7.

Matthew Wright wrote:
The nord modular is like "finnegan's wake" in a world that reads "the da vinci code."

On 11/27/07, Disjunction <disjunction@...> wrote:
As i understand it, Clavia's Modular synths have never been the products that make them the money.
I think most will agree that the Nord Lead  series were the synths that they are best known for.
The Wave is an extension of that range.

The G2 Demo was only meant to entice you to buy a G2.
Should we really expect them to update it too often?

I see myself as lucky to have a G2 at all. I recently returned to the Nord modular world by performing  a live set with just a G2, midi controller and an Anlogue bassline.
it was very enjoyable and man did it slam compared to all of the crappy Ableton sets I've been hearing for the last couple of years.
Sure it took me a month to set up so that i have the versatility that i wanted, but it really was worth it.
I even routed the bassline through the G2 for processing.
No computer screens, just my machines and a ancient peavy pc1600 midi controller.
I couldn't do that with a Nord Lead/Wave.

Cheers
             7uke.


Steven Taylor wrote:
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:43, Disjunction wrote:

  
Hi Grant
The editor is running under Rosetta so the performance on even the
newest Intel hardware is quite poor.
There is not much that can be done about it unfortunately.

Cheers
    
Well Clavia could pull their finger out their ass :)

Unfortunately their recent product line-up, including the pedestrian  
Wave, makes me think this is unlikely.
Unless they are a company with some kind of bi-polar disorder. Here's  
hoping.

S

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