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Deka Intimidator 9A34?

by cowtown :: Rate this Message:

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<<< Does anyone have any first-hand experience with the Deka 9A34?  Its
specs sound rather comparable to the Optima YT (55Ah C/20, 120 min
reserve cap, 970 CA), but its cost is considerably more attractive.  I
imagine perhaps life isn't as good, but I'd love to hear what other
list members have seen.  Is it worth adding the extra 3/4" length to
my battery box? >>>

No experience, but that $70-75 difference (e.g.-  
http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Deka-Intimidator-Battery---9A34__9A34.aspx 
vs.  
http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Optima-Battery---Yellow-Top-Deep-Cycle-D34-950__D34-950.aspx) works out to more than a third less! Listees have complained about Yellow-tops dropping in quality lately, too. Any idea where Intimidators are made and who the actual manufacturer  
is?

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Parent Message unknown Re: Deka Intimidator 9A34?

by Peter VanDerWal :: Rate this Message:

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Uhh, I'm pretty sure that Deka makes the Deka Intimidators.

I haven't used the Intimidators, but I have used the Deka Dominators.  The
Dominators are a good battery if you use them within their limits.  The
only complaint I have about them is that Deka's published specs are a
little, um...optimistic.

The Intimidator is supposed to be a decent battery, but I'd recommend
buying one and testing it first to see how it handles in real life and
decide based on your own testing if it's suitable for your application.

My /guess/ is that if you're not looking for drag racing performance, it
will probably be ok. Emphasis on the word /guess/.

> No experience, but that $70-75 difference (e.g.-
> http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Deka-Intimidator-Battery---9A34__9A34.aspx
> vs.
> http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Optima-Battery---Yellow-Top-Deep-Cycle-D34-950__D34-950.aspx)
> works out to more than a third less! Listees have complained about
> Yellow-tops dropping in quality lately, too. Any idea where Intimidators
> are made and who the actual manufacturer
> is?
>
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Parent Message unknown Re: Deka Intimidator 9A34?

by Peter VanDerWal :: Rate this Message:

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Dooh, sorry.  I need another cup of coffee.

Deka is made by East Penn

> <<< Does anyone have any first-hand experience with the Deka 9A34?  Its
> specs sound rather comparable to the Optima YT (55Ah C/20, 120 min
> reserve cap, 970 CA), but its cost is considerably more attractive.  I
> imagine perhaps life isn't as good, but I'd love to hear what other
> list members have seen.  Is it worth adding the extra 3/4" length to
> my battery box? >>>
>
> No experience, but that $70-75 difference (e.g.-
> http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Deka-Intimidator-Battery---9A34__9A34.aspx
> vs.
> http://www.remybattery.com/Products/Optima-Battery---Yellow-Top-Deep-Cycle-D34-950__D34-950.aspx)
> works out to more than a third less! Listees have complained about
> Yellow-tops dropping in quality lately, too. Any idea where Intimidators
> are made and who the actual manufacturer
> is?
>
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Re: Deka Intimidator 9A34?

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Deka Intimidators are very different from Dominators.  I can't think of
anything about the latter that applies to the former.  Initimidators (dumb
name) are AGMs, Dominators (slightly less dumb name ;-) are gel batteries.  
The Intimidators' specs claim a much shorter cycle life, btw.  

That said, East Penn doesn't make junk.  (So far.  Knock wood.)

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Parent Message unknown Re: Deka Intimidator 9A34?

by Ben Apollonio :: Rate this Message:

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> The Intimidator is supposed to be a decent battery, but I'd recommend
> buying one and testing it first to see how it handles in real life and
> decide based on your own testing if it's suitable for your  
> application.

That's not a bad idea.  With the savings, I could easily afford an  
extra battery for experimental purposes.  I have a 300W load bank at  
work I can use to get a discharge curve and to verify the reserve  
capacity rating.  Anyone have any ideas how I might (safely) test its  
pulse discharge capability?  I don't exactly have any 10kW 15mOhm  
resistors kicking around, and the largest load bank I have access to  
is only 1kW.

If I'm happy with what I see, I'll be the list's guinea pig for these  
guys.  I plan to build myself a lithium pack someday, but right now I  
really just need to get the car on the road.  Five years into this  
project, I'm tired of it not being done.

-Ben

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Re: Deka Intimidator 9A34?

by Craig Bailey-3 :: Rate this Message:

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On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 03:10:04PM -0400, Ben Apollonio wrote:

> > The Intimidator is supposed to be a decent battery, but I'd recommend
> > buying one and testing it first to see how it handles in real life and
> > decide based on your own testing if it's suitable for your  
> > application.
>
> That's not a bad idea.  With the savings, I could easily afford an  
> extra battery for experimental purposes.  I have a 300W load bank at  
> work I can use to get a discharge curve and to verify the reserve  
> capacity rating.  Anyone have any ideas how I might (safely) test its  
> pulse discharge capability?  I don't exactly have any 10kW 15mOhm  
> resistors kicking around, and the largest load bank I have access to  
> is only 1kW.
>
> If I'm happy with what I see, I'll be the list's guinea pig for these  
> guys.  I plan to build myself a lithium pack someday, but right now I  
> really just need to get the car on the road.  Five years into this  
> project, I'm tired of it not being done.
>
> -Ben
>
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" and the largest load bank I have access to is only 1kW."

is it oild cooled, and if not, can it be?
reason i ask is.. i had to make a dummyload for some of my ham radio
gear, i ended up making a 500w pack (100 X 5000ohm 5 watt for a total of 50 ohms)
 of resistors and sat
them in a paintcan full of transmission oil. The oil keeps it cool
enough for about 2-3 minutes of 1KW(could prolly go longer, but have
not had a need to... could scale that up without much work.
To get an idea....
http://www.k4eaa.com/dummy.html
anyway, G'luck
-Craig

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Re: Deka Intimidator 9A34?

by Lee Hart :: Rate this Message:

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>> The Intimidator is supposed to be a decent battery... I'd recommend
>> buying one and testing it first to see how it handles in real life
>> and decide based on your own testing if it's suitable for your  
>> application.

> That's not a bad idea.  With the savings, I could easily afford an  
> extra battery for experimental purposes.  I have a 300W load bank at  
> work I can use to get a discharge curve and to verify the reserve  
> capacity rating.  Anyone have any ideas how I might (safely) test its  
> pulse discharge capability?

You probably have a bunch of load resistors hanging up in your closet.
:-) Use a wire coat hanger as a resistor. Dunk it in a bucket of water
for cooling, and it can handle at least 250 amps.

The spare battery can either be used as part of your pack, or if you
abuse it too much, it can serve as your 12v accessory battery, or for
some other use.
--
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget the perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in    --    Leonard Cohen
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