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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19808548</id>
	<title>kredit tanpa agunan 8-125 jt..adm/provisi 1,5 % saja</title>
	<published>2008-10-03T19:46:47Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-03T19:46:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>windy09</name>
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	<content type="html">Pinjaman uang tunai tanpa agunan dari bank terbesar di asia ,memberikan kemudahan bagi anda untuk 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mendapatkannya dengan persyaratan yang sangat mudah dan flexible cukup dengan fc ktp dan 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;fc credit card (sisi depannya saja),fc billing tagihan 1 bulan terakhir (bila ada)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dan bunga yang sangat kompetitif ,proses hingga pencairan hanya membutuhkan MAXIMAL 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5- 7 hari kerja saja.kemudahan pembayaran yg dapat dilakukan via ATM BCA,LIPPO,BII 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;atau pun dapat juga lewat kantor pos.;;provisi/bea adm hanya 1,5% dr nilai kredit yg di setujui.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DIBANTU HINGGA CAIR........
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hubungi :
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;windi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;94624222
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;wonderwindi09@gmail.com&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PERHITUNGAN BUNGA/BULAN			
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;TENOR	
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jml.Pinjaman	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12 bulan	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;24 bulan	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 36 bulan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;8.000.000 - &amp;nbsp;14.999.999	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.87% 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.87 %. 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;- &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;15.000.000 - 125.000.000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.70%	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.75 %. &amp;nbsp; 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.80 %. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TABEL ANGSURAN			
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;PINJAMAN	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1 TAHUN	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2 TAHUN	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3 TAHUN
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;8,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 816,267 &amp;nbsp;	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;482,933 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;9,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 918,300 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;543,300 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 10,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,020,334 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;603,666 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 10,500,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,071,350 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;633,850 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 11,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,122,367 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;664,033 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 12,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,224,401 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;724,400 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 13,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,326,434 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;784,766 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 14,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,428,467 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;845,133 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 15,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,505,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;887,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;686,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 16,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,605,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;946,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;732,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 17,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,705,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,005,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;778,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 18,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,806,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,065,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;824,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 19,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,906,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,124,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;869,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 20,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,006,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,183,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;915,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 21,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,107,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,242,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;961,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 22,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,207,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,301,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,007,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 23,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,307,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,360,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,052,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 24,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,408,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,420,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,098,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 25,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,508,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,479,167 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,144,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 25,500,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,558,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,508,750 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,167,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 26,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,608,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,538,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,190,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 27,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,709,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,597,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,236,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 28,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,809,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,656,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,281,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 29,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,909,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,715,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,327,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 30,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,010,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,775,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,373,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 31,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,110,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,834,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,419,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 32,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,210,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,893,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,464,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 33,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,311,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,952,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,510,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 34,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,411,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,011,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,556,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 35,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,511,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,070,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,602,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 36,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,612,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,130,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,648,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 37,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,712,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,189,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,693,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 38,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,812,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,248,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,739,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 39,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,913,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,307,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,785,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 40,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,013,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,366,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,831,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 41,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,113,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,425,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,876,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 42,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,214,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,485,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,922,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 43,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,314,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,544,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,968,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 44,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,414,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,603,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,014,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 45,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,515,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,662,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,060,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 46,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,615,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,721,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,105,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 47,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,715,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,780,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,151,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 48,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,816,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,840,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,197,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 49,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,916,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,899,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,243,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 50,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 5,016,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,958,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,288,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 55,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 5,518,333 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,254,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,517,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 60,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 6,020,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,550,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,746,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 65,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 6,521,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,845,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,975,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 70,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 7,023,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,141,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,204,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 75,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 7,525,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,437,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,433,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 80,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 8,026,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,733,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,662,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 85,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 8,528,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,029,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,891,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 90,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 9,030,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,325,000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,120,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 95,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 9,531,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,620,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,348,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;100,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;10,033,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,916,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,577,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;105,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;10,535,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,212,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,806,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;110,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;11,036,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,508,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,035,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;115,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;11,538,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,804,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,264,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;120,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12,040,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;7,100,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,493,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;125,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12,541,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;7,395,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,722,222 
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19741124</id>
	<title>help with the workaround.org postfix isp style email setup.</title>
	<published>2008-09-30T05:32:12Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-30T05:32:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Michael Habashy</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I have setup my email like the configuration recommended on
&lt;br&gt;workaround.org tutorial.
&lt;br&gt;But having a couple of issues and hope you can help.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. i get a lot of connection refused errors, so i modified by
&lt;br&gt;$mynetworks line is postfix to include the loopback address, public
&lt;br&gt;and private ip addresses.
&lt;br&gt;But i do still get the error of connection refused from time to time.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. When i send email to yahoo,live/hotmail,and gmail - it all goes to
&lt;br&gt;the spam bucket --do not know why - I have setup a reverse dns record
&lt;br&gt;for my domain name.
&lt;br&gt;Is there anything else i can check ???
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. I get an error :
&lt;br&gt;Sep 30 08:16:05 rider postfix/smtpd[9521]: warning: cannot get
&lt;br&gt;certificate from file /etc/ssl/certs/postfix.pem
&lt;br&gt;Sep 30 08:16:05 rider postfix/smtpd[9521]: warning: TLS library
&lt;br&gt;problem: 9521:error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or
&lt;br&gt;directory:bss_file.c:352:fopen('/etc/ssl/certs/postfix.pem','r'):
&lt;br&gt;Sep 30 08:16:05 rider postfix/smtpd[9521]: warning: TLS library
&lt;br&gt;problem: 9521:error:20074002:BIO routines:FILE_CTRL:system
&lt;br&gt;lib:bss_file.c:354:
&lt;br&gt;Sep 30 08:16:05 rider postfix/smtpd[9521]: warning: TLS library
&lt;br&gt;problem: 9521:error:140DC002:SSL
&lt;br&gt;routines:SSL_CTX_use_certificate_chain_file:system lib:ssl_rsa.c:720:
&lt;br&gt;Sep 30 08:16:05 rider postfix/smtpd[9521]: cannot load RSA certificate
&lt;br&gt;and key data
&lt;br&gt;Sep 30 08:16:05 rider postfix/smtpd[9521]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THis error is killing me becasue i create the file as specified in the
&lt;br&gt;tutorial and the file disappears...is there something i am doing wrong
&lt;br&gt;here ????
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks...need all the hlp i can get.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks
&lt;br&gt;mjh
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19730544</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T12:54:45Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T12:54:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nate Duehr</name>
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	<content type="html">PÁSZTOR György wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Nate Duehr&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19730544&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nate@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; írta 2008-09-29 01:35-kor:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sure seems a lot easier to built a proper Spanning-Tree hierarchy that &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; blocks only when necessary and unblocks automatically when the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; condition clears (no &amp;quot;err-disabled&amp;quot; if the problem has cleared itself)?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I want to know if someone do sg. like this, and I want to talk with.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If it clears itself, the problem just &amp;quot;disappears&amp;quot;, and stronger the beleif
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that the network is unreliable.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's why you monitor and you go find root-cause.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; As far as &amp;quot;hacks&amp;quot; on the network. &amp;nbsp;All comments regarding hard-coding &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a port ASSUME that the network admin actually knows how to keep and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; use proper documentation techniques, and is also MONITORING such &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; things via SNMP from the switches, to note inappropriate speed/rate &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; changes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thats nice in theory. The only issue is that, I never seen this nice
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; practice.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So you're saying your practice is bad? &amp;nbsp;Time to get control of it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In a properly documented network, hard-setting or autonegotiation &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; aren't &amp;quot;hacks&amp;quot; they're just another setting in the documentation and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; monitoring systems.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It's true in a case where you have no choice about incorporating a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; device which doesn't complain standards. But as I said: If a networking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; device doesn't complain so obvious standard, like autonegoiation, it will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mess up other things too.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's not a logical argument. &amp;nbsp;Code isn't that way.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's like saying if there's bugs in Apache for one module, there will 
&lt;br&gt;certainly be bugs in another. &amp;nbsp;Non-logical assumption.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People try too hard to associate patterns of &amp;quot;behavior&amp;quot; of a piece of 
&lt;br&gt;gear to real bugs. &amp;nbsp;Bugs are bugs. &amp;nbsp;You either have them or you don't.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can't extrapolate a bug rate from a whole product because a 
&lt;br&gt;particular device has a single bug.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you CAN logically say is that ALL devices have some sort of bug 
&lt;br&gt;somewhere in their code. &amp;nbsp;That one's pretty solid, unless you've tied 
&lt;br&gt;bugs to money somewhere, and for every bug your vendor has to pay you.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That hasn't happened in computer technology yet. &amp;nbsp;(It has in other 
&lt;br&gt;professions, in the form of malpractice lawsuits and insurance. 
&lt;br&gt;Doctors, Lawyers, Civil Engineers... when we start having LAWSUITS over 
&lt;br&gt;bad code, life will be far more interesting and quality levels will go up.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I glanced at your other mail, and I saw, that you wrote about cisco-sun
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; difficulties. I think thats a good example: If you have no other working
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; solution, It can be the right way. But I have to repeat myself: Only if you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have proper documentation about those hardcodings/hacks/whatever.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, we agree here. &amp;nbsp;Documentation and monitoring are the network 
&lt;br&gt;admin's job.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nate
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19724239</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T06:48:57Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T06:48:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mr Shunz</name>
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	<content type="html">2008/9/29 PÁSZTOR György &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19724239&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pasztor@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;[snip]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It sounds like the most common issue of the fixed port:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Device A sets its FE to fixed 100 FD
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Device B sets its FE to autoneg.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; B try to autoneg: A has disabled it, so doesn't answer.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; B sense the speed and sets 100-HD.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -&amp;gt; B measures many-many collisions because tries Half Duplex operation on a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; link, where the oppenent part operates in Full.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that was the issue, they configured the cat with fixed port and we didn't know!
&lt;br&gt;BUT that was not a problem when, instead of a linux server, there was connected
&lt;br&gt;a c7200 on the same port of the switch ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But, if it's the case, what I suppose, it's not the fault of your cisco
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; devices, or your computers. It's a simple PEBKAC.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;obviously it's not equipment fault, it's just a matter of configuration,
&lt;br&gt;knowing when a port is fixed and when not...
&lt;br&gt;but sometimes you just *can't* know how some 'computers' are configured,
&lt;br&gt;and in our experience when the connection is cisco &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; cisco aren't
&lt;br&gt;any problems, when it's cisco &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; other equipment fixing the port on the
&lt;br&gt;non-cisco server/switch/whatever has always fixed collision problems
&lt;br&gt;while rarely tweaking on cisco config has...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;btw, never had a problem with Gbit connections, only with 100 Mbit, (and
&lt;br&gt;ethtool even refuses to turn autoneg off on GbE fortunately ;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19723649</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T06:15:34Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T06:15:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Wojciech Ziniewicz</name>
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	<content type="html">W dniu 29 września 2008 15:13 użytkownik PÁSZTOR György
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19723649&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pasztor@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; napisał:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But, if it's the case, what I suppose, it's not the fault of your cisco
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; devices, or your computers. It's a simple PEBKAC.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;exactly, we hade those pebkac problems with our local telco, but the
&lt;br&gt;problem existed between keyboard and cisco not 'computer' ;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19723613</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T06:13:00Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T06:13:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>PÁSZTOR György</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Mr Shunz&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19723613&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mrshunz@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; írta 2008-09-29 13:26-kor:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; we have a cat 2950 connected to a server running quagga.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We kept seeing collision both on the switch (led blinking yellow) and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; on the server (ifconfig from console and sh int eth1 from vtysh). Talking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with our upstrem provider (it's their cat) they told to fix our port
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and *bam* no more collision in two years. After that we had to temporarily
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; replace a linksys managed switch with a cheap one and our 7200 began to show
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; collisions on the fE interface which disappeared when we put back the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; linksys and fixed the port there ...
&lt;br&gt;It sounds like the most common issue of the fixed port:
&lt;br&gt;Device A sets its FE to fixed 100 FD
&lt;br&gt;Device B sets its FE to autoneg.
&lt;br&gt;B try to autoneg: A has disabled it, so doesn't answer.
&lt;br&gt;B sense the speed and sets 100-HD.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; B measures many-many collisions because tries Half Duplex operation on a
&lt;br&gt;link, where the oppenent part operates in Full.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, if it's the case, what I suppose, it's not the fault of your cisco
&lt;br&gt;devices, or your computers. It's a simple PEBKAC.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;gyu
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19724341</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T05:59:56Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T05:59:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Leonardo Boselli</name>
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	<content type="html">Another case of fixing a port speed:
&lt;br&gt;We had a 10 base T network (but with 5 and 5E cabling). all went fine for
&lt;br&gt;some years. at a certain time the number of workstations connected were so
&lt;br&gt;much increased that the network became unusable.
&lt;br&gt;We bought some Gigabit switches and as pheripheric swicthes, to conenct
&lt;br&gt;all WS in a room, some chap 100 MB switches. all was fine ... for just a
&lt;br&gt;few weeks ... given more bandwidth even users increased their usage, so
&lt;br&gt;even the 100 MB switch proved unusable ... ot at least it looked so. We
&lt;br&gt;bought a further gigabit one.
&lt;br&gt;Actually it fixed the problem for &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; (that is between hosts in
&lt;br&gt;the same romm) file transfer but speed decreased for &amp;quot;outside&amp;quot; connection,
&lt;br&gt;op to levers worse than when used the 10 MB switch.
&lt;br&gt;Since i had doubt on one of the GB switch i swapped that one for a
&lt;br&gt;knownt-to-work 100 MB one. Performance retuyrned good.
&lt;br&gt;I inquired and discovered that on the cable from the backbone to the romm
&lt;br&gt;having problem (a long and hard to reach cable) 2 wires were defective
&lt;br&gt;somewhere . Changing the wire was out of concern, so the solution was to
&lt;br&gt;set the speed at 100 MB on that junction, so it used only two
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;good&amp;quot; pairs, while on GB setting it tried to use also the two defective
&lt;br&gt;ones.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19722098</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T04:26:00Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T04:26:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mr Shunz</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2008/9/28 PÁSZTOR György &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19722098&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pasztor@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;[snip]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Could you show us some proof for this, otherwise I have to assume, that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this is a nonsense urban legend.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have tons of 2950s and 3750s at my workplace which is maintained by me,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; but there is no fixed ports in the whole building.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;we have a cat 2950 connected to a server running quagga.
&lt;br&gt;We kept seeing collision both on the switch (led blinking yellow) and
&lt;br&gt;on the server (ifconfig from console and sh int eth1 from vtysh). Talking
&lt;br&gt;with our upstrem provider (it's their cat) they told to fix our port
&lt;br&gt;and *bam* no more collision in two years. After that we had to temporarily
&lt;br&gt;replace a linksys managed switch with a cheap one and our 7200 began to show
&lt;br&gt;collisions on the fE interface which disappeared when we put back the
&lt;br&gt;linksys and fixed the port there ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19720590</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T02:15:32Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T02:15:32Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>PÁSZTOR György</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Nate Duehr&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19720590&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nate@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; írta 2008-09-29 01:35-kor:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sure seems a lot easier to built a proper Spanning-Tree hierarchy that &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; blocks only when necessary and unblocks automatically when the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; condition clears (no &amp;quot;err-disabled&amp;quot; if the problem has cleared itself)?
&lt;br&gt;I want to know if someone do sg. like this, and I want to talk with.
&lt;br&gt;If it clears itself, the problem just &amp;quot;disappears&amp;quot;, and stronger the beleif
&lt;br&gt;that the network is unreliable.
&lt;br&gt;Otherwise: If you plan well, you will know at the planning state, what
&lt;br&gt;ports will be backbone ports, and you allow pdu's there, and you will know
&lt;br&gt;what ports will be access ports, and you allow spanning-tree portfast on
&lt;br&gt;them, but if you don't want to mess up things, you should also allow
&lt;br&gt;bpduguard also.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Yes! That's another correct observation! If a device doesn't comply a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;standard which is so obvios, than what can do wrong too?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;And the other observation is also correct: If you do too many hacks &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;on your
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;network, it's usually undocumented, and it cause many other problems &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;when
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;you connect devices which works correctly, and comply the standards.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; As far as &amp;quot;hacks&amp;quot; on the network. &amp;nbsp;All comments regarding hard-coding &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a port ASSUME that the network admin actually knows how to keep and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; use proper documentation techniques, and is also MONITORING such &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; things via SNMP from the switches, to note inappropriate speed/rate &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; changes.
&lt;/div&gt;Thats nice in theory. The only issue is that, I never seen this nice
&lt;br&gt;practice.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In a properly documented network, hard-setting or autonegotiation &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aren't &amp;quot;hacks&amp;quot; they're just another setting in the documentation and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; monitoring systems.
&lt;br&gt;It's true in a case where you have no choice about incorporating a
&lt;br&gt;device which doesn't complain standards. But as I said: If a networking
&lt;br&gt;device doesn't complain so obvious standard, like autonegoiation, it will
&lt;br&gt;mess up other things too.
&lt;br&gt;I glanced at your other mail, and I saw, that you wrote about cisco-sun
&lt;br&gt;difficulties. I think thats a good example: If you have no other working
&lt;br&gt;solution, It can be the right way. But I have to repeat myself: Only if you
&lt;br&gt;have proper documentation about those hardcodings/hacks/whatever.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;gyu
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19719446</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T00:35:11Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T00:35:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nate Duehr</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:41 AM, PÁSZTOR György wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;slightly-offtopic&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Common problem, when some moron come to here with bridging enabled in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; his/her notebook, and connect to an access port, and then that &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; alternative
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OS, whichs name is not spoken - the evil one :-D - starts to send PDUs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; towards the access port, and then it's change its state to err- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; disabled.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; When they come to me for complain about the unreliable network, I tell
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; them, what they did: From my viewpoint, they accross the network &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; policy, so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; they can be happy, that I still allow them to connect, and re-allow &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; err-disabled port.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/slightly-offtopic&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure seems a lot easier to built a proper Spanning-Tree hierarchy that &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;blocks only when necessary and unblocks automatically when the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;condition clears (no &amp;quot;err-disabled&amp;quot; if the problem has cleared itself)?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yes! That's another correct observation! If a device doesn't comply a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; standard which is so obvios, than what can do wrong too?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; And the other observation is also correct: If you do too many hacks &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; on your
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; network, it's usually undocumented, and it cause many other problems &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; when
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; you connect devices which works correctly, and comply the standards.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as &amp;quot;hacks&amp;quot; on the network. &amp;nbsp;All comments regarding hard-coding &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;a port ASSUME that the network admin actually knows how to keep and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;use proper documentation techniques, and is also MONITORING such &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;things via SNMP from the switches, to note inappropriate speed/rate &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;changes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you're not in control of your network BEFORE messing with hard- 
&lt;br&gt;coding things, OF COURSE you'll find this to be a &amp;quot;hack&amp;quot; later when &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;your brain can't remember what you did years ago.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a properly documented network, hard-setting or autonegotiation &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;aren't &amp;quot;hacks&amp;quot; they're just another setting in the documentation and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;monitoring systems.
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19719502</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-29T00:26:17Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-29T00:26:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nate Duehr</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;On Sep 28, 2008, at 4:20 AM, Shane Chrisp wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It is quite common practise to set the ports to what you need so that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the auto-negotiation does not get it wrong, in particular setting half
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; duplex instead of full duplex. This is not so common when its
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;cisco connected to cisco&amp;quot;, but very common when its &amp;quot;cisco &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; connected to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; some other brand&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cisco / Sun combinations are PARTICULARLY notorious for this &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;problem. &amp;nbsp; They have never played nicely between their different forms &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;of auto-negotiation.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hard-coding in the server room/closet, auto-negotiation for the PC's &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;on the general population network is VERY common. &amp;nbsp;Hard-coding in a &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;data-center environment is also quite common.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One place where this falls down are fiber interfaces. &amp;nbsp;The fiber specs &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;typically do things &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; without messing with them, and messing &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;with hard-setting fiber interfaces often leads to other trouble (human &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;error).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hard-setting in cases where Ethernet distance lengths for higher &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;speeds have been exceeded can also be useful. &amp;nbsp;The cable in use may &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;not consistently work well at a higher speed over long distances, but &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;will handle lower speed Ethernet just fine.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Example: Very old buildings with Cat 3 type cabling in risers often &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;exhibits bad CRC error rates at 100 full. &amp;nbsp;100 half, or even 10 full/ 
&lt;br&gt;half hard-set in the switch closet may save a small company struggling &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;for cash enough money and time to &amp;quot;get by&amp;quot; until the building's &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;distribution frame cabling can be upgraded. &amp;nbsp;It's a stupid thing to &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;have to do, but it's better than thousands upon thousands of CRC &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;errors from old wiring counting up in all the switches.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In short -- if anyone hasn't been around Ethernet long enough to have &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;seen times when hard-set settings and auto-negotiation can BOTH cause &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;trouble, they haven't seen it all yet. &amp;nbsp;I have.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Try a call-center wired with Cat 3 25-pair in riser bundles to 110 &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;punch blocks (old AT&amp;T building) to Cat 5 STP (shielded, not &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;unshielded twisted pair) installed incorrectly with drain wires at &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;both ends tied to ground and at 3m punch blocks cross-connected to the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;110's (remember those, anyone?) within a 1/8 mile of a high-powered AM &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;broadcast facility. &amp;nbsp;(Yeah, that was fun.)
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19716077</id>
	<title>Re: Using maildrop with virtual users (MySQL db)</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T15:09:29Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T15:09:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marco Zaia - Multimedia Creative</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Henry-Nicolas Tourneur ha scritto:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'v got some questions about the maildrop package. I don't know how to tell it 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to fetch 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; users from the MySQL db (using courier-authdaemon).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is my setup : Postfix (patched with VDA) / Courier(pop, imap and mysql) / 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Amavis / SpamAssassin and ... maildrop.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The problem is that maildrop doesn't seems to use courier-authdaemon to check 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; where it have to deliver email.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The result is that I have a lot of messages like : 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sep 28 16:12:01 ns203407 postfix/pipe[2368]: E2DE113B42: 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to=&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19716077&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;henry.nicolas@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, relay=maildrop, delay=0.03, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; delays=0.02/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown. Command 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; output: Invalid user specified. )
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That make me think that he don't know where is the maildir for the user 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19716077&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;henry.nicolas@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So, I googled around for hours, without success and I'm writing this email 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with hope that somebody might have a solution.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My final goals are : 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1° Allow maildrop to act as my MDA, deliver spams to a junk folder is the home 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of the user.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2° Allow maildrop to manage my quotas (value stored in the MySQL db).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Henry-Nicolas Tourneur.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/div&gt;could be a problem of permissions check :
&lt;br&gt;- setuid bit of maildrop executable
&lt;br&gt;- on authmysqlrc fields MYSQL_UID_FIELD and MYSQL_GID_FIELD
&lt;br&gt;- UID and GID on the Maildir
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marco
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19713963</id>
	<title>Re: Using maildrop with virtual users (MySQL db)</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T11:01:47Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T11:01:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas Goirand</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Henry-Nicolas Tourneur wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'v got some questions about the maildrop package. I don't know how to tell it 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to fetch 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; users from the MySQL db (using courier-authdaemon).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is my setup : Postfix (patched with VDA) / Courier(pop, imap and mysql) / 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Amavis / SpamAssassin and ... maildrop.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The problem is that maildrop doesn't seems to use courier-authdaemon to check 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; where it have to deliver email.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The result is that I have a lot of messages like : 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sep 28 16:12:01 ns203407 postfix/pipe[2368]: E2DE113B42: 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to=&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19713963&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;henry.nicolas@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, relay=maildrop, delay=0.03, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; delays=0.02/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown. Command 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; output: Invalid user specified. )
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That make me think that he don't know where is the maildir for the user 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19713963&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;henry.nicolas@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So, I googled around for hours, without success and I'm writing this email 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with hope that somebody might have a solution.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My final goals are : 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1° Allow maildrop to act as my MDA, deliver spams to a junk folder is the home 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of the user.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2° Allow maildrop to manage my quotas (value stored in the MySQL db).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Henry-Nicolas Tourneur.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can pickup all these configuration problems in the source code of
&lt;br&gt;our control panel. For example, here's our /etc/courier/userdb
&lt;br&gt;generation code:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://git.gplhost.com/gitweb/?p=dtc.git;a=blob;f=admin/genfiles/gen_maildrop_userdb.php;h=99acab3b0a83752fa96eb331cf1fd9ee88f79b88;hb=3a2c6435db63ea0c6c9c8466bb2e5f91eb1a5008&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://git.gplhost.com/gitweb/?p=dtc.git;a=blob;f=admin/genfiles/gen_maildrop_userdb.php;h=99acab3b0a83752fa96eb331cf1fd9ee88f79b88;hb=3a2c6435db63ea0c6c9c8466bb2e5f91eb1a5008&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can also pickup all the code for doing all what you said above, our
&lt;br&gt;panel has it all (and more).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thomas
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19713151</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T09:41:06Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T09:41:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>PÁSZTOR György</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;A. Dreyer&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19713151&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;adreyer@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; írta 2008-09-28 13:00-kor:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Second, its a bit hard to fix auto-negotiation in a vendors product such
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; as a switch, firewall or router. The sad fact is that not all hardware
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; plays nice with one another and you sometimes need to set the interfaces
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; to prevent problems. Yes that even means Gigabit interfaces. If the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; interfaces negotiated correctly you would not configure the interface to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; a set speed, only when they do not detect each other correctly. Maybe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; that clears things up.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If a device is sold as Gigabit-Switch/-Router/-Firewall and does not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; understand Gigabit auto-negotiation I would return it to the seller.
&lt;/div&gt;Yes! This is the correct attitude! I do not neither allow devices into my
&lt;br&gt;network which doesn't respect standards. IEEE is not just a bunch of
&lt;br&gt;idiots, and they don't do the standards just for enjoy themself.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;slightly-offtopic&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Common problem, when some moron come to here with bridging enabled in
&lt;br&gt;his/her notebook, and connect to an access port, and then that alternative
&lt;br&gt;OS, whichs name is not spoken - the evil one :-D - starts to send PDUs
&lt;br&gt;towards the access port, and then it's change its state to err-disabled.
&lt;br&gt;When they come to me for complain about the unreliable network, I tell
&lt;br&gt;them, what they did: From my viewpoint, they accross the network policy, so
&lt;br&gt;they can be happy, that I still allow them to connect, and re-allow the
&lt;br&gt;err-disabled port.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/slightly-offtopic&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; During the specification of Gigabit Ethernet they tried to avoid the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mistakes they made while defining 100Mbit/s and the auto-negotiation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; process in Gb/s is pretty clear - if any &amp;quot;Gigabit&amp;quot; device can not work
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with it I would expect other problems as well..
&lt;br&gt;Yes! That's another correct observation! If a device doesn't comply a
&lt;br&gt;standard which is so obvios, than what can do wrong too?
&lt;br&gt;And the other observation is also correct: If you do too many hacks on your
&lt;br&gt;network, it's usually undocumented, and it cause many other problems when
&lt;br&gt;you connect devices which works correctly, and comply the standards.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS.: Otherwise: I recently heard that, in the past few years, those &amp;quot;low
&lt;br&gt;end manufacturers&amp;quot; like HP can create well-working devices which comply
&lt;br&gt;standards ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Summarized: If you make network with cheap devices, you pay it's price in
&lt;br&gt;the TCO, with your many time you spent on debugging instead of operating,
&lt;br&gt;and maybe the secondary consequences of the downtime is even higher if you
&lt;br&gt;have to provide SLA or any kind of high availability.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;gyu
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19712122</id>
	<title>Using maildrop with virtual users (MySQL db)</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T07:45:14Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T07:45:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tourneur Henry-Nicolas</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'v got some questions about the maildrop package. I don't know how to tell it 
&lt;br&gt;to fetch 
&lt;br&gt;users from the MySQL db (using courier-authdaemon).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is my setup : Postfix (patched with VDA) / Courier(pop, imap and mysql) / 
&lt;br&gt;Amavis / SpamAssassin and ... maildrop.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem is that maildrop doesn't seems to use courier-authdaemon to check 
&lt;br&gt;where it have to deliver email.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The result is that I have a lot of messages like : 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sep 28 16:12:01 ns203407 postfix/pipe[2368]: E2DE113B42: 
&lt;br&gt;to=&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19712122&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;henry.nicolas@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, relay=maildrop, delay=0.03, 
&lt;br&gt;delays=0.02/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown. Command 
&lt;br&gt;output: Invalid user specified. )
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That make me think that he don't know where is the maildir for the user 
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, I googled around for hours, without success and I'm writing this email 
&lt;br&gt;with hope that somebody might have a solution.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My final goals are : 
&lt;br&gt;1° Allow maildrop to act as my MDA, deliver spams to a junk folder is the home 
&lt;br&gt;of the user.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2° Allow maildrop to manage my quotas (value stored in the MySQL db).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Henry-Nicolas Tourneur.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19711179</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T05:00:48Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T05:00:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>A. Dreyer-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Shane Chrisp wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 12:25 +0100, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19711179&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ml10154@...&lt;/a&gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Shane Chrisp wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; It is quite common practise to set the ports to what you need so that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the auto-negotiation does not get it wrong, in particular setting half
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; duplex instead of full duplex. This is not so common when its 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;cisco connected to cisco&amp;quot;, but very common when its &amp;quot;cisco connected to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; some other brand&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Well it is common practise, but it is also one of the major problems.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; People tend to forget these settings when they plug in other devices and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; complain that they have &amp;quot;bad connectivity&amp;quot; or low throughput...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Please make sure that you do not disable the auto-negotiation on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Gigabit-Ports (at least when running at 1Gbit/s) - it is marked as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mandatory in the standard and you should rather fix the broken part that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; doesn't understand the auto-negotiation than fiddling around with these
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; settings.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Firstly please don't send directly to me, i am subscribed to the list.
&lt;br&gt;Sorry about that.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Second, its a bit hard to fix auto-negotiation in a vendors product such
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; as a switch, firewall or router. The sad fact is that not all hardware
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plays nice with one another and you sometimes need to set the interfaces
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to prevent problems. Yes that even means Gigabit interfaces. If the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; interfaces negotiated correctly you would not configure the interface to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a set speed, only when they do not detect each other correctly. Maybe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that clears things up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If a device is sold as Gigabit-Switch/-Router/-Firewall and does not
&lt;br&gt;understand Gigabit auto-negotiation I would return it to the seller.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;During the specification of Gigabit Ethernet they tried to avoid the
&lt;br&gt;mistakes they made while defining 100Mbit/s and the auto-negotiation
&lt;br&gt;process in Gb/s is pretty clear - if any &amp;quot;Gigabit&amp;quot; device can not work
&lt;br&gt;with it I would expect other problems as well..
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Achim
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19710898</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T04:42:47Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T04:42:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Shane Chrisp</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 12:25 +0100, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19710898&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ml10154@...&lt;/a&gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Shane Chrisp wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It is quite common practise to set the ports to what you need so that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the auto-negotiation does not get it wrong, in particular setting half
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; duplex instead of full duplex. This is not so common when its 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;quot;cisco connected to cisco&amp;quot;, but very common when its &amp;quot;cisco connected to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; some other brand&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Well it is common practise, but it is also one of the major problems.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; People tend to forget these settings when they plug in other devices and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; complain that they have &amp;quot;bad connectivity&amp;quot; or low throughput...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please make sure that you do not disable the auto-negotiation on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Gigabit-Ports (at least when running at 1Gbit/s) - it is marked as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mandatory in the standard and you should rather fix the broken part that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; doesn't understand the auto-negotiation than fiddling around with these
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; settings.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Firstly please don't send directly to me, i am subscribed to the list.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, its a bit hard to fix auto-negotiation in a vendors product such
&lt;br&gt;as a switch, firewall or router. The sad fact is that not all hardware
&lt;br&gt;plays nice with one another and you sometimes need to set the interfaces
&lt;br&gt;to prevent problems. Yes that even means Gigabit interfaces. If the
&lt;br&gt;interfaces negotiated correctly you would not configure the interface to
&lt;br&gt;a set speed, only when they do not detect each other correctly. Maybe
&lt;br&gt;that clears things up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shane
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19710948</id>
	<title>Partnership with debian.org</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T04:28:40Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T04:28:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Alicia Carasco</name>
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	<content type="html">Fellow Website Owner/Operator;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19710853</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T04:25:58Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T04:25:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>ml10154</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Shane Chrisp wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It is quite common practise to set the ports to what you need so that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the auto-negotiation does not get it wrong, in particular setting half
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; duplex instead of full duplex. This is not so common when its 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;cisco connected to cisco&amp;quot;, but very common when its &amp;quot;cisco connected to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; some other brand&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well it is common practise, but it is also one of the major problems.
&lt;br&gt;People tend to forget these settings when they plug in other devices and
&lt;br&gt;complain that they have &amp;quot;bad connectivity&amp;quot; or low throughput...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please make sure that you do not disable the auto-negotiation on
&lt;br&gt;Gigabit-Ports (at least when running at 1Gbit/s) - it is marked as
&lt;br&gt;mandatory in the standard and you should rather fix the broken part that
&lt;br&gt;doesn't understand the auto-negotiation than fiddling around with these
&lt;br&gt;settings.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Achim
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19710416</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T03:20:58Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T03:20:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Shane Chrisp</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 10:33 +0200, PÁSZTOR György wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Mr Shunz&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19710416&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mrshunz@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; írta 2008-09-24 13:43-kor:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Actually the switch is outside managed so i cannot myself make any changes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;I do know it is set to 100 full. &amp;nbsp;The switch does show errors on it also.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; cisco equipment likes fixed ports ... it *should* be enough to fix your
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; nics with ethtool like ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Could you show us some proof for this, otherwise I have to assume, that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this is a nonsense urban legend.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have tons of 2950s and 3750s at my workplace which is maintained by me,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; but there is no fixed ports in the whole building.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;It is quite common practise to set the ports to what you need so that
&lt;br&gt;the auto-negotiation does not get it wrong, in particular setting half
&lt;br&gt;duplex instead of full duplex. This is not so common when its 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;cisco connected to cisco&amp;quot;, but very common when its &amp;quot;cisco connected to
&lt;br&gt;some other brand&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shane
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19710026</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-28T01:33:06Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-28T01:33:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>PÁSZTOR György</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Mr Shunz&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19710026&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mrshunz@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; írta 2008-09-24 13:43-kor:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Actually the switch is outside managed so i cannot myself make any changes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;I do know it is set to 100 full. &amp;nbsp;The switch does show errors on it also.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cisco equipment likes fixed ports ... it *should* be enough to fix your
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nics with ethtool like ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Could you show us some proof for this, otherwise I have to assume, that
&lt;br&gt;this is a nonsense urban legend.
&lt;br&gt;I have tons of 2950s and 3750s at my workplace which is maintained by me,
&lt;br&gt;but there is no fixed ports in the whole building.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;gyu
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19708989</id>
	<title>kredit tanpa agunan 8-125 jt..adm/provisi 1,5 % saja</title>
	<published>2008-09-27T22:21:35Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-27T22:21:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>windy07</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Pinjaman uang tunai tanpa agunan dari bank terbesar di asia ,memberikan kemudahan bagi anda untuk 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mendapatkannya dengan persyaratan yang sangat mudah dan flexible cukup dengan fc ktp dan 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;fc credit card (sisi depannya saja),fc billing tagihan 1 bulan terakhir (bila ada)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dan bunga yang sangat kompetitif ,proses hingga pencairan hanya membutuhkan MAXIMAL 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5- 7 hari kerja saja.kemudahan pembayaran yg dapat dilakukan via ATM BCA,LIPPO,BII 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;atau pun dapat juga lewat kantor pos.;;provisi/bea adm hanya 1,5% dr nilai kredit yg di setujui.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DIBANTU HINGGA CAIR........
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hubungi :
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;windi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;94624222
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;wonderwindi09@gmail.com&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PERHITUNGAN BUNGA/BULAN			
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;TENOR	
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jml.Pinjaman	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12 bulan	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;24 bulan	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 36 bulan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;8.000.000 - &amp;nbsp;14.999.999	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.87% 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.87 %. 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;- &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;15.000.000 - 125.000.000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.70%	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.75 %. &amp;nbsp; 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1.80 %. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TABEL ANGSURAN			
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;PINJAMAN	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1 TAHUN	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2 TAHUN	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3 TAHUN
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;8,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 816,267 &amp;nbsp;	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;482,933 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;9,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 918,300 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;543,300 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 10,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,020,334 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;603,666 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 10,500,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,071,350 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;633,850 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 11,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,122,367 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;664,033 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 12,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,224,401 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;724,400 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 13,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,326,434 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;784,766 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 14,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,428,467 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;845,133 	
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 15,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,505,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;887,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;686,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 16,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,605,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;946,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;732,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 17,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,705,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,005,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;778,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 18,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,806,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,065,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;824,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 19,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,906,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,124,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;869,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 20,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,006,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,183,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;915,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 21,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,107,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,242,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;961,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 22,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,207,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,301,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,007,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 23,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,307,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,360,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,052,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 24,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,408,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,420,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,098,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 25,000,000	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,508,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,479,167 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1,144,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 25,500,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,558,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,508,750 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,167,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 26,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,608,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,538,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,190,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 27,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,709,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,597,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,236,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 28,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,809,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,656,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,281,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 29,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2,909,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,715,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,327,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 30,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,010,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,775,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,373,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 31,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,110,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,834,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,419,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 32,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,210,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,893,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,464,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 33,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,311,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,952,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,510,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 34,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,411,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,011,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,556,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 35,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,511,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,070,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,602,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 36,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,612,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,130,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,648,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 37,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,712,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,189,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,693,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 38,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,812,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,248,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,739,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 39,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3,913,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,307,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,785,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 40,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,013,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,366,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,831,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 41,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,113,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,425,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,876,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 42,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,214,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,485,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,922,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 43,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,314,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,544,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,968,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 44,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,414,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,603,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,014,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 45,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,515,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,662,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,060,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 46,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,615,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,721,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,105,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 47,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,715,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,780,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,151,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 48,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,816,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,840,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,197,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 49,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,916,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,899,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,243,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 50,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 5,016,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,958,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,288,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 55,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 5,518,333 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,254,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,517,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 60,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 6,020,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,550,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,746,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 65,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 6,521,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,845,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,975,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 70,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 7,023,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,141,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,204,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 75,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 7,525,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,437,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,433,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 80,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 8,026,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,733,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,662,222 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 85,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 8,528,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,029,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,891,111 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 90,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 9,030,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,325,000 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4,120,000 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 95,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 9,531,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,620,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,348,889 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;100,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;10,033,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,916,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,577,778 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;105,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;10,535,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,212,500 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,806,667 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;110,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;11,036,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,508,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,035,556 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;115,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;11,538,333 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,804,167 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,264,444 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;120,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12,040,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;7,100,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,493,333 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;125,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12,541,667 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;7,395,833 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,722,222 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19700391</id>
	<title>PERSONAL LOAN HINGGA 200 jt,BUNGA 1,36-1,74% ..PERSYARATAN MUDAH...dr CITIBANK</title>
	<published>2008-09-27T00:26:43Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-27T00:26:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>jeri</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Nikmati pinjaman tanpa agunan/personal loan dengan persyaratan yang sangat mudah dan variatif
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;bunga yang kecil 1,36 % - 1,74 % dan proses hingga pencairan yang hanya membutuhkan waktu 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;maximal 5 hari kerja dengan persyaratan dokument yang &amp;nbsp;sangat mudah .dr citibank
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PERSYARATAN DOKUMENT PENGAJUAN (DENGAN MENGGUNAKAN CREDIT CARD )							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.FOTO COPY KTP							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.FOTO COPY CREDIT CARD							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3.FOTO COPY BILLING 1 BULAN TERAKHIR							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4.FOTO COPY NPWP ( UNTUK PINJAMAN DIATAS Rp.50 JT )							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*MINIMAL PINJAMAN Rp.10.000.000*							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*MAXIMAL PINJAMAN 3 X LIMIT CREDIT CARD ATAU Rp.100.000.000*							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*BUNGA PINJAMAN Rp.10.000.000 - 24.000.000 &amp;nbsp;= 1,74 % /BULAN*							
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*BUNGA PINJAMAN Rp.25.000.000 - 100.000.000 = 1,55 % /BULAN*
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PERSYARATAN DOKUMENT PENGAJUAN (DENGAN MENGGUNAKAN SLIP GAJI )				
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;1.FOTO COPY KTP				
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.SLIP GAJI ASLI/SURAT KETERANGAN PENGHASILAN				
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3.FOTO COPY TRANSFER GAJI 3 BULAN TERAKHIR				
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4.FOTO COPY NPWP (PINJAMAN DIATAS 50 JT ) 				
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;5.FOTO COPY CREDIT CARD
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* MINIMAL GAJI PER BULAN &amp;nbsp;RP.10.000.000,- * 				
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* MINIMAL PINJAMAN Rp.40.000.000 &amp;nbsp;* 				
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* MAXIMAL PINJAMAN Rp.200.000.000 &amp;nbsp;* 				
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* BUNGA 1,36 % /BULAN *			
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hubungi :
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JEFRI
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;021-94966624
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;jefri099@gmail.com
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TABEL ANGSURAN 			
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Nilai	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12 bln 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;24 bln	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 36 bln
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;Pinjaman			
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 10,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,007,330 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;590,670 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;451,780 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 11,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,108,063 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;649,737 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;496,958 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 12,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,208,796 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;708,804 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;542,136 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 13,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,309,529 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;767,871 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;587,314 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 14,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,410,262 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;826,938 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;632,492 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 15,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,510,995 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;886,005 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;677,670 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 16,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,611,728 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;945,072 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;722,848 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 17,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,712,461 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,004,139 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;768,026 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 18,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,813,194 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,063,206 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;813,204 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 19,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,913,927 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,122,273 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;858,382 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 20,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,014,660 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,181,340 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;903,560 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 21,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,115,393 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,240,407 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;948,738 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 22,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,216,126 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,299,474 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;993,916 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 23,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,316,859 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,358,541 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,039,094 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 24,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,417,592 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,417,608 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,084,272 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 25,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,470,825 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,429,175 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,081,950 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 26,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,569,658 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,486,342 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,125,228 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 27,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,668,491 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,543,509 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,168,506 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 28,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,767,324 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,600,676 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,211,784 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 29,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,866,157 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,657,843 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,255,062 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 30,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,964,990 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,715,010 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,298,340 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 31,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,063,823 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,772,177 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,341,618 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 32,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,162,656 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,829,344 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,384,896 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 33,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,261,489 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,886,511 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,428,174 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 35,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,459,155 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,000,845 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,514,730 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 40,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,953,320 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,286,680 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,731,120 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 45,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,447,485 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,572,515 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1,947,510 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 50,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,941,650 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,858,350 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,163,900 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 55,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,435,815 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,144,185 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,380,290 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 60,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,929,980 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,430,020 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,596,680 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 65,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,424,145 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,715,855 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2,813,070 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 70,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;6,918,310 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,001,690 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,029,460 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 75,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;7,412,475 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,287,525 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,245,850 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 80,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;7,906,640 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,573,360 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,462,240 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 85,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;8,400,805 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,859,195 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,678,630 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 90,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;8,894,970 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,145,030 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3,895,020 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 95,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;9,389,135 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,430,865 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,111,410 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;100,000,000 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;9,883,300 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;5,716,700 	 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;4,327,800 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hubungi :
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JEFRI
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;021-94966624
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;jefri099@gmail.com&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19677743</id>
	<title>Re: ultramonkey / piranha - lvs solutions</title>
	<published>2008-09-25T13:31:33Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-25T13:31:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Odair Augusto Trujillo</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Ultramonkey and Heartbeat like parts of Linux-HA project.&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Al principio, el Hombre creó a Dios; y lo creó a su imagen y semejanza.&lt;br&gt;Y el Hombre dio a Dios multitud de nombres, y el poder de que fuera el Señor de toda la tierra cuando al Hombre le conviniere.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;

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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19660198</id>
	<title>ultramonkey / piranha - lvs solutions</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T16:34:23Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T16:34:23Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Wojciech Ziniewicz</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to deploy a veyr highly available www website with many servers
&lt;br&gt;with virtualization.
&lt;br&gt;I would prefer to use a gui to manage it (of course I like vim too ;) )
&lt;br&gt;What solution do You advise and why ? :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Wojciech Ziniewicz
&lt;br&gt;Unix SEX :{look;gawk;find;sed;talk;grep;touch;finger;find;fl
&lt;br&gt;ex;unzip;head;tail; mount;workbone;fsck;yes;gasp;fsck;more;yes;yes;eje
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19657058</id>
	<title>Re: I need domain configuration exports from commercial control panels</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T13:00:45Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T13:00:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas Goirand</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">blorb wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i can export DA as backup.... would it help?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would indeed! What it calls &amp;quot;backup&amp;quot; is the configuration of the
&lt;br&gt;email accounts, etc. right?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thomas
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19656127</id>
	<title>Re: I need domain configuration exports from commercial control panels</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T12:28:48Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T12:28:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>blorb</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;i can export DA as backup.... would it help?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Thomas Goirand &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19656127&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thomas@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;Hi,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As you may know, I am the main author of the first open source control&lt;br&gt;
panel that has a chance to be included in the forthcoming Lenny.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I wrote, 2 weeks ago, import and export functionalities to make it easy&lt;br&gt;
to move domains between panel installations.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Now, I want to also be able to import from commercial control panels&lt;br&gt;
like cPanel, DA or Plesk. I already have a (not surprisingly very ugly)&lt;br&gt;
export from Plesk 8, but I need some from others.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So if you can help me, fill a fake domain with accounts (email,&lt;br&gt;
subdomains, ftp, database), then do an export, and send it to me. That&lt;br&gt;
would be of great help.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Regards and thanks to anybody that can help,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Thomas Goirand&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
P.S: Note that I tried to ask in other places without much success...&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19655423</id>
	<title>Re: some weird upgrade problem</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T11:49:47Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T11:49:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marcin Owsiany</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 02:53:00AM +0100, Paweł Krzywicki wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have tried upgrade my Debian yesterday and apt showed me an weird error.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am having the problem with python-libxml2 package. I have also 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in /usr/share/doc/python-libxml2/examples directory files like that:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ?????????? ? ? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? schema.py
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ?????????? ? ? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? serialize.py
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ?????????? ? ? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? sync.py
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; date of creation is of these files is 1st Jun1970 ?! 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I cannot do absolutely nothing with them. I have tried to use live CD and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mount my drive not as a system one and remove them (rm -f), change owner of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; these files, nothing seems to be working with them. Every time when I am 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; trying to do something I have straight something like: &amp;quot;You don't have an 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; access to the file&amp;quot; (?!) Do you have any ideas how to fix that. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; thanks in advance
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;It's likely that it's just the lack of execute permission on the containing
&lt;br&gt;directory:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mowsiany@beczulka:~$ sudo mkdir a
&lt;br&gt;mowsiany@beczulka:~$ sudo touch a/a
&lt;br&gt;mowsiany@beczulka:~$ ls -al b
&lt;br&gt;total 8
&lt;br&gt;drwxr-xr-x &amp;nbsp;2 root &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; root 4096 2008-09-24 19:47 .
&lt;br&gt;drwxr-xr-x 74 mowsiany eng &amp;nbsp;4096 2008-09-24 19:47 ..
&lt;br&gt;-rw-r--r-- &amp;nbsp;1 root &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; root &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 2008-09-24 19:47 a
&lt;br&gt;mowsiany@beczulka:~$ sudo chmod a-x a
&lt;br&gt;mowsiany@beczulka:~$ ls -al a
&lt;br&gt;total 0
&lt;br&gt;?--------- ? ? ? ? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? a/.
&lt;br&gt;?--------- ? ? ? ? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? a/..
&lt;br&gt;?--------- ? ? ? ? &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;? a/b
&lt;br&gt;mowsiany@beczulka:~$ 
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19650641</id>
	<title>RE: Multiple virtual interfaces in one VLAN</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T07:46:42Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T07:46:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ross Halliday</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I've had great success with the following in /etc/network/interfaces:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;iface eth0.400:0 inet static
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;iface eth0.400:1 inet static
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;iface eth0.400:2 inet static
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And so on. Using to manage wireless CPEs in different subnets on the
&lt;br&gt;same VLAN.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you trying to make all of your aliases use DHCP or statics? I would
&lt;br&gt;expect multiple &amp;quot;use DHCP&amp;quot; entries on the same NIC would take you
&lt;br&gt;nowhere - if work at all.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers
&lt;br&gt;---
&lt;br&gt;Ross Halliday
&lt;br&gt;Network Operations
&lt;br&gt;WTC Communications
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: Michael Fischer [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19650641&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;michi.fischer@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: Multiple virtual interfaces in one VLAN
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i have a machine with only one physical network interface. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i know that it is possible to create virtual interfaces (eth0:1, etc.)
&lt;br&gt;to have multiple ip-adresses on one physical interface. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;now i would need to configure vlans on this machine - no problem so far,
&lt;br&gt;this is my config: 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[code]
&lt;br&gt;auto eth1.1001
&lt;br&gt;iface eth1.1001 inet dhcp 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;auto eth1.1012
&lt;br&gt;iface eth1.1012 inet dhcp
&lt;br&gt;[/code]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that works too, i get the interfaces vlan1012 and vlan1001 and ip
&lt;br&gt;adresses in the corresponding subnets. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but i cant create virtual interfaces for those vlan interfaces - the
&lt;br&gt;problem is i would need about 10 interfaces in one vlan. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i have tried both eth1.1001:1 and eth1:1.1001 syntax - both dont work. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;does anyone know how to do this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lg, Michi
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19649089</id>
	<title>Re: Multiple virtual interfaces in one VLAN</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T06:25:50Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T06:25:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Paul Cupis</name>
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	<content type="html">Michael Fischer wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i cant create virtual interfaces for those vlan interfaces - the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; problem is i would need about 10 interfaces in one vlan. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i have tried both eth1.1001:1 and eth1:1.1001 syntax - both dont work. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; does anyone know how to do this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don't use aliases, use iproute2 to add the extra IP addresses to the 
&lt;br&gt;interfaces:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; ip address add 192.168.5.5/24 dev eth1.1001
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19648626</id>
	<title>Multiple virtual interfaces in one VLAN</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T06:16:31Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T06:16:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Michael Fischer-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i have a machine with only one physical network interface. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i know that it is possible to create virtual interfaces (eth0:1, etc.)
&lt;br&gt;to have multiple ip-adresses on one physical interface. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;now i would need to configure vlans on this machine - no problem so far,
&lt;br&gt;this is my config: 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[code]
&lt;br&gt;auto eth1.1001 
&lt;br&gt;iface eth1.1001 inet dhcp 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;auto eth1.1012 
&lt;br&gt;iface eth1.1012 inet dhcp
&lt;br&gt;[/code]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that works too, i get the interfaces vlan1012 and vlan1001 and ip
&lt;br&gt;adresses in the corresponding subnets. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but i cant create virtual interfaces for those vlan interfaces - the
&lt;br&gt;problem is i would need about 10 interfaces in one vlan. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i have tried both eth1.1001:1 and eth1:1.1001 syntax - both dont work. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;does anyone know how to do this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lg, Michi
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19647051</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T04:43:51Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T04:43:51Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mr Shunz</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; Actually the switch is outside managed so i cannot myself make any changes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;I do know it is set to 100 full. &amp;nbsp;The switch does show errors on it also.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cisco equipment likes fixed ports ... it *should* be enough to fix your
&lt;br&gt;nics with ethtool like ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
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&lt;br&gt;------------------------------------------------
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19647067</id>
	<title>I need domain configuration exports from commercial control panels</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T04:26:26Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T04:26:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas Goirand</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As you may know, I am the main author of the first open source control
&lt;br&gt;panel that has a chance to be included in the forthcoming Lenny.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wrote, 2 weeks ago, import and export functionalities to make it easy
&lt;br&gt;to move domains between panel installations.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, I want to also be able to import from commercial control panels
&lt;br&gt;like cPanel, DA or Plesk. I already have a (not surprisingly very ugly)
&lt;br&gt;export from Plesk 8, but I need some from others.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So if you can help me, fill a fake domain with accounts (email,
&lt;br&gt;subdomains, ftp, database), then do an export, and send it to me. That
&lt;br&gt;would be of great help.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards and thanks to anybody that can help,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thomas Goirand
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S: Note that I tried to ask in other places without much success...
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-19637974</id>
	<title>Re: load balanced nic</title>
	<published>2008-09-23T14:57:26Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-23T14:57:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Chris Parker</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Ross Halliday wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Are you seeing any errors on the switch? Do you have the link speed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; forced on the 3750 (ie 1000/FDX)? Might be worth a try poking around
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with ethtool and force the speed at both ends.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cheers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ---
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ross Halliday
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Network Operations
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; WTC Communications
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Chris Parker [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19637974&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chris_parker@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:18 PM
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: load balanced nic
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; All,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have a load balanced nic, bond0 that is giving errors on the tx side.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; each nic, slave 1 and slave 2 have a different amount of errors on the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tx side. &amp;nbsp;Also they each show collisions. &amp;nbsp;they are connected to a cisco
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 3750 switch. &amp;nbsp;That also shows errors on rcv and fc? 
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The bond is set up as adaptive load balance. &amp;nbsp;I used this one due to not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; having to change configuration on the switch. &amp;nbsp;Atleast the kernel doc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; said there was no config changes needed at the switch.
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; any ideas or pointers would be highly appreciated.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; if more information is needed please let me know. &amp;nbsp;I do not have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; access to the configuration on the switches just the nics on the server.
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; thank you,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; chris parker
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