Continues flds

[Hershel Fisch-2]

Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on multiple
cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic?
Thanks, Hershel

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[Kay C Lan]

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Hershel Fisch <hershf@...> wrote:

> Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on multiple
> cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic?


What's your problem. Maybe we can figure out a solution faster than we can
figure out all the possible permutations of who's posted problems about
fields,cards and what their posted subject was :-)
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[Thomas McGrath III-2]

Do you mean a field as a background object? on all cards?


On May 6, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:

> Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on  
> multiple
> cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic?
> Thanks, Hershel
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[Thomas McGrath III-2]

OR maybe you mean a field that when it gets to the bottom of a card  
continues on at the next card?

Tom

On May 7, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

> Do you mean a field as a background object? on all cards?
>
>
> On May 6, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
>
>> Hi, there was a discussion regarding a single fld continuing on  
>> multiple
>> cards, can somebody recall exactly the topic?
>> Thanks, Hershel
>>
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[Colin Holgate]

On May 7, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

> OR maybe you mean a field that when it gets to the bottom of a card  
> continues on at the next card?

The two could be the same thing. If you had text continue, book like,  
onto the next card, the field that it continues in would probably want  
to be the same background field. This was a question I've had too, how  
do you drag a field onto the card, make a new card, and still see the  
field you just made (because it's a background field)? I don't mean a  
shared text one either, that's easy to do if you can get the basic  
background field going.

Even doing a set the editbackground of this stack to true is not  
enough to let you make a background field.
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[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hi Hershel,

I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm  
wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to hold  
all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your  
needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would  be if it is to  
be associated with some art work that would be associated with that  
text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not difficult  
unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be  
more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you  
trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that  
it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the  
underlying objective(s).

HTH,

Joe Wilkins

On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:

> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a  
> book) or
> card it should start where the previous page left off.
> Hershel
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[Hershel Fisch-2]

I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a book) or
card it should start where the previous page left off.
Hershel

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[Hershel Fisch-2]

On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <pepetoo@...> wrote:

> Hi Hershel,
For page layout.
Thanks, Hershel

>
> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm
> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to hold
> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your
> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would  be if it is to
> be associated with some art work that would be associated with that
> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not difficult
> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be
> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you
> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that
> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the
> underlying objective(s).
>
> HTH,
>
> Joe Wilkins
>
> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a
>> book) or
>> card it should start where the previous page left off.
>> Hershel
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[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hershel,

Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell me  
much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective of  
your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and I  
just missed picking up on it.

Joe Wilkins

On May 7, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:

> On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <pepetoo@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hershel,
> For page layout.
> Thanks, Hershel
>>
>> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm
>> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to  
>> hold
>> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your
>> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would  be if it is to
>> be associated with some art work that would be associated with that
>> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not  
>> difficult
>> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be
>> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you
>> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that
>> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the
>> underlying objective(s).
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Joe Wilkins
>>
>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a
>>> book) or
>>> card it should start where the previous page left off.
>>> Hershel
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[Colin Holgate]

On May 7, 2008, at 8:50 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell  
> me much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective  
> of your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and  
> I just missed picking up on it.

Can one of you give simple steps for making a background field that is  
still there when you make a new card, and also suggest ways to spread  
text across that background field, over many cards. For the sake of  
argument, suppose that there is a few megabytes of text to show, and  
that might be sluggish in a single scrolling field.


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[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Unlike HC, Rev doesn't use the background concept. So, to do what you  
want:

1.  Create a New Mainstack
2.  Drag a scrollable (or non-scrollable) field from the Tools palette  
onto the stack. It only has one card at this time.
3.  Select that field
4.  Click on the Group Button in the Tool Bar
5.  If you don't see the Object Inspector for that field double click  
on the field using the Edit Pointer Tool
6.  Set the check-box for "Behave like a Background" - at the bottom  
of the Object Inspector Window.

You now have a field that will appear on all of the new cards that you  
create. If you want it to share text, you'll have to set that property  
as well; otherwise each card can have unique text.

HTH,

Joe Wilkins

On May 7, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

>
> On May 7, 2008, at 8:50 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell  
>> me much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the  
>> objective of your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that  
>> earlier and I just missed picking up on it.
>
> Can one of you give simple steps for making a background field that  
> is still there when you make a new card, and also suggest ways to  
> spread text across that background field, over many cards. For the  
> sake of argument, suppose that there is a few megabytes of text to  
> show, and that might be sluggish in a single scrolling field.
>
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[Colin Holgate]

On May 7, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> HTH,

It did. The ability was more buried than I was expecting!


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[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Colin,

I understand. Nothing in Rev is quite as simple as it was with HC. I  
think you'll find that it is best/easiest to set up all of the so-
called background objects on the first card of the stack, since I  
think it gets even more complicated if you want to create "background"  
objects once you have a whole bunch of cards. And it would be a good  
idea to set all of the Objects' properties at that time as well.  
So.... try to plan ahead if you can.

Joe Wilkins


On May 7, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

>
> On May 7, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
>
>> HTH,
>
> It did. The ability was more buried than I was expecting!
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[Kay C Lan]

OK this is what I did as a VERY BASIC test to create a field that once you
'fill a field up' it will automatically take you to the 'Next Card' which
has the same field and allows you to just keep typing.

New stack.
New plain field 'Field1'
Make it a group and give it backgroundBehavior
Make a New Card and check that 'Field1' is automatically copied across.
In the group script put this 11 line script.

1  ON rawKeyDown pKeyCode
2     IF ((the formattedheight of field "Field1") > (the height of field
"Field1")) THEN
3         go to card (the number of this card + 1)
4         put char -1 field "Field1"  of card (the number of this card - 1)
into field "Field1"
5         delete char -1 of field "Field1" of card (the number of this card
- 1)
6         select after field "Field1"
7         pass rawKeyDown pKeyCode
8     ELSE
9         pass rawKeyDown pKeyCode
10    END IF
11 END rawKeyDown


Notes:
1) Unlike the documentation that say its important to 'pass rawKeyDown' and
then give an example without the the actual key code to pass, it's
imperative to include this vital parameter.
2) You need to play with formattedHeight and height because in this basic
version the text will skip to the next field when their is still quite a
margin left - I assume it has something to do with margins so maybe
formattedHeight > (height + margin) or margin/2?
3) You'll need to be check that a Next Card exists or create one if doesn't.
4) Haven't though too much about Pasting text in - I imagine you'd need some
kind of 'Repeat for each' loop to simulate typing the text in.

It's a very basic start, but it's possible.
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[John Tregea]

Hi Hershel,

I may have missed something in this thread but what is stopping you from just putting the text in appropriate sized chunks on a series of cards? NOt programatically, just cut and paste your total text into appropriate blocks across how ever many cards you need?

Regards

John T

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[Jim Ault]

On 5/7/08 9:15 PM, "John Tregea" <john@...> wrote:

> Hi Hershel,
>
> I may have missed something in this thread but what is stopping you from just
> putting the text in appropriate sized chunks on a series of cards? NOt
> programatically, just cut and paste your total text into appropriate blocks
> across how ever many cards you need?
>
> Regards
>
> John T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hershel Fisch [mailto:hershf@...]
> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 08:53 AM
> To: 'How to use Revolution'
> Subject: Re: Continues flds
>
> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a book) orcard
> it should start where the previous page left
> off.

You could also have Rav cast the text as images and make the user think they
were going card to card and all you would do is produce the slide show
(blending would be a nice touch to produce a transition)

import snapshot of the rect of the formattedtext of line 1 to 24 of field
displayText as JPEG

fld displayText would be off-screen, the 'last image' would be the new one,
you could set it to the layer behind the current visible on, then do a
blendLevel to reveal the new image, then delete the old one.


You could trigger forward and backward image snapshots.

BTW, is there a reason you don't just set the scroll of a field as the user
clicks, rather than card to card?

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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[Jim Ault]

Ah, you mean 'text flow' or 'story flow' like they do in Quark.  That is a
specialty feature that word processors and layout programs use, just like
text wrap.  You could build it in Rev using the formattedHeight,
formattedWidth.  It will get tricky if you want to allow multiple font
specs, such as bold, font face, etc.

More than I would want to tackle.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On 5/7/08 11:35 PM, "Hershel Fisch" <hershf@...> wrote:

> On 5/7/08 7:50 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <pepetoo@...> wrote:
>
>> Hershel,
>>
>> Maybe I'm kind of dense, but saying "page layout" just doesn't tell me
>> much. Sorry for being so insistent; maybe if I knew the objective of
>> your program it might. Perhaps you've mentioned that earlier and I
>> just missed picking up on it.
> If you change the field size then the text should automatically reorganize
> and it should carry on to the next page or previous or vise versa.
> Hershel
>>
>> Joe Wilkins
>>
>> On May 7, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/7/08 5:10 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <pepetoo@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hershel,
>>> For page layout.
>>> Thanks, Hershel
>>>>
>>>> I've been catching your postings for the past day or so, and I'm
>>>> wondering: why are you not merely using a scrolling text field to
>>>> hold
>>>> all of this text? The only reason that I could think of for your
>>>> needing to separate it into a series of "pages" would  be if it is to
>>>> be associated with some art work that would be associated with that
>>>> text. Is that the case? If so, what you are proposing is not
>>>> difficult
>>>> unless the text is subject to change. I believe your problem must be
>>>> more complicated than you have presented to the list. What are you
>>>> trying to do? In Rev there are so very many ways to skin any cat that
>>>> it is difficult to suggest solutions without truly understanding the
>>>> underlying objective(s).
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> Joe Wilkins
>>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to have text in a field and in the next page (like a
>>>>> book) or
>>>>> card it should start where the previous page left off.
>>>>> Hershel
>>>>>
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