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	<title>Nabble - Canon EOS</title>
	<updated>2008-04-16T17:41:06Z</updated>
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	<title>Re: I found an Exakta Lens to Canon EOS Camera Adapter on eBay</title>
	<published>2008-04-16T17:41:06Z</published>
	<updated>2008-04-16T17:41:06Z</updated>
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		<name>Keisang</name>
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	<content type="html">After I mounted my Exakta lens on my Canon 5D using an adapter, when I tried to take a picture, the mirror would hit the mount. &amp;nbsp;The resulting photo only shows the top 1/4 of the frame. &amp;nbsp;Have you run into this problem? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tony
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&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;lawrencetob wrote:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-message&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; I bought an Exakta Lens to Canon EOS Camera Adapter on eBay in last month.Now I have used,it's perfect. So I recommend that.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cgi.ebay.com.cn/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1&amp;item=330105548922&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&amp;ih=014&amp;referrer=http%3A//my.ebay.com.cn/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FMyeBay%26CurrentPage%3DMyeBayWatching%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AME%3ALNLK&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cgi.ebay.com.cn/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1&amp;item=330105548922&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&amp;ih=014&amp;referrer=http%3A//my.ebay.com.cn/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FMyeBay%26CurrentPage%3DMyeBayWatching%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AME%3ALNLK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-16112287</id>
	<title>questions about head shots.</title>
	<published>2008-03-17T19:12:43Z</published>
	<updated>2008-03-17T19:12:43Z</updated>
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		<name>photo922</name>
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	<content type="html">hi, hi.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;does anyone have tips on head shots?
&lt;br&gt;i usually shoot fine art photography or musicians but i someone asked if i can shoot their headshots and i have no idea if there is a proper way, lighting, suggestions on what they should wear, what type of lighting, etc. 
&lt;br&gt;any suggestions on how to have a proper headshot picture?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers!
&lt;br&gt;amc&lt;div class=&quot;signature&quot;&gt;go take pictures...&lt;img class='smiley' src='http://www.nabble.com/images/smiley/anim_claps.gif' /&gt;&lt;br&gt;myspace.com/photo922&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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	<title>RE: EOS New Canon Digital Body Mention</title>
	<published>2008-01-23T15:35:05Z</published>
	<updated>2008-01-23T15:35:05Z</updated>
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		<name>canona720</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canona720.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CANON A720&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote light-black dark-border-color&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote light-border-color&quot;&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Tom Pfeiffer wrote:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-message shrinkable-quote&quot;&gt;I have to agree I think it would be quite unlikely that one magazine would
&lt;br&gt;have advance notice of Canon introducing a new body several months away.
&lt;br&gt;More likely, they *expect* them to do so before the prize becomes payable.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tom P. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: owner-eos@a1.nl [mailto:owner-eos@a1.nl] On Behalf Of James Fry
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:05 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: EOS list
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: EOS New Canon Digital Body Mention
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Cotty wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Interesting. AP usually offer accessories as well as the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; camera, maybe 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; a lens or two, maybe a printer.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I think it may well be a 30D.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Or it could just be a 350D and 50mm f/1.4, 17-40 f/4 and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 70-200 f/4. Or any other combination of kit (eg camera, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; flash, lens, tripod, printer, maybe a cheap laptop?).
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-14208481</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Canon digital sensors</title>
	<published>2007-12-07T00:13:39Z</published>
	<updated>2007-12-07T00:13:39Z</updated>
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		<name>tzbecca</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.0576w.cn/catalog.asp?cate=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;google排名&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tzjiuge.com/promotion.asp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;网络推广&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tzjiuge.com/ &quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;台州网络公司&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tzjiuge.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;台州网站建设&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tzjiuge.com/case.asp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;台州网页设计&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.0576w.cn/catalog.asp?cate=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;网站优化&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.0576w.cn/catalog.asp?cate=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;搜索引擎优化&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hi.baidu.com/tzjiuge&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;google排名&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.0576w.cn/post/google.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;google排名&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.0576w.cn/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;网站优化&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.soufun.com/blog_11634198.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google左侧排名&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot; http://www.xinyu666.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;太阳能真空管&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zjchaoyi.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;预浸布&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pinhong.net&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;装饰设计&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hmwjzs.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;装饰五金&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hmwjzs.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;五金装饰&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pinhong.net/about.asp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;装饰设计&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bjseek.com.cn&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;数据恢复&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bjseek.com.cn&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RAID数据恢复&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bjseek.com.cn&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;服务器数据恢复&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Bob-3 wrote:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-message&quot;&gt;
A friend of mine swears that Kodak makes the CMOS full frame image 
sensors for Canon.  He says that Kodak's image sensors are the best in 
the world.

I always thought that in the EOS DSLRs the image sensors are made by 
Canon.   The only definitive info I can find is in the 20D White Pages 
where it states that the image sensor is CMOS made by Canon.

Can anybody straighten us out?

BTW he also says Nikon uses Kodak sensors.......

Bob

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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-11018669</id>
	<title>Re: EOS FS: 30D body and 85L</title>
	<published>2007-06-07T18:35:01Z</published>
	<updated>2007-06-07T18:35:01Z</updated>
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		<name>deanomilot</name>
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	<content type="html">I am interested in your Canon 30D.
&lt;br&gt;Is it still available?
&lt;br&gt;dawn
&lt;br&gt;deanomilot@hotmail.com
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote light-black dark-border-color&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote light-border-color&quot;&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot; style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Yuri K wrote:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-message shrinkable-quote&quot;&gt;All,
&lt;br&gt;Canon 30D body only
&lt;br&gt;Box contains
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;camera body Canon 30D,
&lt;br&gt;lithium-ion battery pack BP-511A,
&lt;br&gt;battery charger CG-580,
&lt;br&gt;manuals, blank USA warranty card,
&lt;br&gt;USB cable - Interface Cable IFC-400PCU,
&lt;br&gt;Video Cable VC-100
&lt;br&gt;Software CDs
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, I am throwing in 4 cards by Lexar 1 GB each and a spare battery pack BP-511.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Camera is in mint condition, was a back-up camera for my 1D.
&lt;br&gt;The body is in mint condition, the box is like new, all packaging is
&lt;br&gt;in place if you want
&lt;br&gt;to make it a present. Close to 6,000 shots fired; the shutter
&lt;br&gt;for this model was certified for 100,000 actuations. This is a camera
&lt;br&gt;body only offer, no lenses, not a kit.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shipping by Fedex within 48 states is included in price: $1,000 ( one thousand).
&lt;br&gt;I am from Portland, OR area.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;I also have 85mm L for sale: $1,250. Also mint. That's the first
&lt;br&gt;iteration of the lens, not the 85L MkII
&lt;br&gt;The hood has scuffs, the lens itself is mint, razor-sharp wide open.
&lt;br&gt;No boxes, no papers except from bill of sale from MidWest Exchange -
&lt;br&gt;the folks I bought it from.
&lt;br&gt;My wife keeps hers (she has 2 more) and I want to try an MkII next spring.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shipping to 48 states by Fedex is included.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;on a sidenote: she thinks she is better off with the slower focusing
&lt;br&gt;lens. she claims it's different shooting culture..
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-10076227</id>
	<title>Canon - 9747A002- Accessory Kit</title>
	<published>2007-04-19T05:26:08Z</published>
	<updated>2007-04-19T05:26:08Z</updated>
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		<name>StephenAinsworth</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi. I bought Canon - 9747A002- Accessory Kit for my digital cameras of just $64.95 from Planetonline.com. It compatible with the powershot- G6 including LI-Ion battery(BP-511A), delux soft case and leather neck strap.
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	<title>I found an Exakta Lens to Canon EOS Camera Adapter on eBay</title>
	<published>2007-04-05T23:19:38Z</published>
	<updated>2007-04-05T23:19:38Z</updated>
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		<name>lawrencetob</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">  I bought an Exakta Lens to Canon EOS Camera Adapter on eBay in last month.Now I have used,it's perfect. So I recommend that.
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	<title>RE: EOS Canon refurbished lenses</title>
	<published>2006-12-26T17:07:14Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-26T17:07:14Z</updated>
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		<name>Ken Lin-2</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So... has anyone on the list had any experience buying a lens
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; refurbished by Canon, and any experience -- good or bad -- to share?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Never bought a second hand lens refurbished from Canon, never seen any here
&lt;br&gt;in Canada.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Generally you should get a good price reduction but sometimes at the expense
&lt;br&gt;of a shorter warranty, and sometimes it's overall cheaper to buy an extended
&lt;br&gt;warranty from a 3rd party warranty firm to cover the duration you are
&lt;br&gt;comfortable with and still pay less overall.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some credit cards offer automatic warranty extension, mine &amp;quot;doubles the
&lt;br&gt;warranty up to an additional one year&amp;quot;, so you get a 6 month extension if
&lt;br&gt;the OEM warranty was 6 months, but you only get one year extension even if
&lt;br&gt;the OEM warranty is 2 years.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note however that some credit card does not cover &amp;quot;refurbished&amp;quot; items under
&lt;br&gt;this warranty, I've lucked out once getting the battery of a refurbished
&lt;br&gt;laptop replaced ($$$), yet was refused later when the LCD screen started
&lt;br&gt;acting up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;You pays your money, you takes your chances&amp;quot;
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	<title>EOS FS: EF 20-35 2.8L</title>
	<published>2006-12-26T16:56:47Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-26T16:56:47Z</updated>
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		<name>Robert S. Greenstein, Esq</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi EOS List!!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It's been a long time since I've posted here.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I'm selling my EF 20-35 2.8L and it's flawless. $600 plus shipping and 
&lt;br&gt;insurance.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Test shots and pics are available via e-mail.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As I recollect, there was no problem posting EOS stuff for sale, but 
&lt;br&gt;update me if that's changed.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Happy Holidays to all!!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ROBERT S. GREENSTEIN, ESQ. -- GREENSTEIN LAW OFFICES
&lt;br&gt;Music and Entertainment Industry Business and Legal Affairs
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	<title>Re: EOS Canon refurbished lenses</title>
	<published>2006-12-26T14:00:45Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-26T14:00:45Z</updated>
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		<name>Bob W8IMO</name>
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	<content type="html">Pattie Anderson wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello all -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I hope that everyone on the list had a nice holiday, and for those of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; you who believe in Santa, I hope he brought you lots of great Canon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gear. &amp;nbsp;:-) &amp;nbsp;Santa gave me an IOU for the lens I've had my eye on, and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; although I have the go-ahead to buy it new, since it's my money too, I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; am hoping to save a bit by buying a second-hand version.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So... has anyone on the list had any experience buying a lens
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; refurbished by Canon, and any experience -- good or bad -- to share?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Pattie
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Pattie,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Santa brought me a Huey......
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have two experiences with Canon refurbed &amp;nbsp;lenses. &amp;nbsp;One is second hand, 
&lt;br&gt;a friend bought a couple of things, a 10D and some leneses, from B&amp;H 
&lt;br&gt;that were &amp;quot;used&amp;quot; and rated condition 10. &amp;nbsp;He found out that when B&amp;H 
&lt;br&gt;rates a used Canon product, lens or body, a 10 is is either a store 
&lt;br&gt;sample or a Canon salesperson's sample. &amp;nbsp;In either case Canon goes over 
&lt;br&gt;them and they are like new but can't be sold as new. &amp;nbsp;My friend is very 
&lt;br&gt;happy with the items and told me about the ratings, etc.....
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other is my experience. &amp;nbsp;I bought my 28-135 IS from B&amp;H as used and 
&lt;br&gt;condition 10. &amp;nbsp;It came in a Canon box that was marked used. &amp;nbsp;The lens 
&lt;br&gt;was like new and has worked flawlessly since I bought it a few years 
&lt;br&gt;ago. &amp;nbsp;The cost savings was pretty good too.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I saw a lens or body that I was eyeing , and it was on B&amp;H's used 
&lt;br&gt;list at condition 10, I would not hesitate to order it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;/////
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ( O O )
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8058633</id>
	<title>EOS Canon refurbished lenses</title>
	<published>2006-12-26T12:47:07Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-26T12:47:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Pattie Anderson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello all -
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope that everyone on the list had a nice holiday, and for those of
&lt;br&gt;you who believe in Santa, I hope he brought you lots of great Canon
&lt;br&gt;gear. &amp;nbsp;:-) &amp;nbsp;Santa gave me an IOU for the lens I've had my eye on, and
&lt;br&gt;although I have the go-ahead to buy it new, since it's my money too, I
&lt;br&gt;am hoping to save a bit by buying a second-hand version.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So... has anyone on the list had any experience buying a lens
&lt;br&gt;refurbished by Canon, and any experience -- good or bad -- to share?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pattie
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8039941</id>
	<title>RE: EOS Focus-bracketing &amp; layered/stacked images to increase DOF</title>
	<published>2006-12-23T12:16:25Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-23T12:16:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob Wise</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Thanks for the great references... that's a big eye-opener!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Bob
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=8039941&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;owner-eos@...&lt;/a&gt; [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=8039941&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;owner-eos@...&lt;/a&gt;] On Behalf Of Willem-Jan
&lt;br&gt;Markerink
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:20 PM
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=8039941&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eos@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: EOS Focus-bracketing &amp; layered/stacked images to increase DOF
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After studying the fascinating concept of layered/stacked images, to 
&lt;br&gt;achieve an infinite large DOF, and vaguely recalling that *some* 
&lt;br&gt;later DSLR's (or even compacts?) have focus-bracketing....
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;....I was wondering how long it would take before this stacking-
&lt;br&gt;software might become part of the OEM image-software, external or 
&lt;br&gt;internal, in combination with such focus-bracketing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some of these stacking programs &amp; fascinating samples:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heliconfocus.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.heliconfocus.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heliconfocus.com/pages/focus_overview.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.heliconfocus.com/pages/focus_overview.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hadleyweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CZ5/combinez5.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hadleyweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CZ5/combinez5.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crystalcanyons.net/Pages/TechNotes/3DMicroMacro.shtm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.crystalcanyons.net/Pages/TechNotes/3DMicroMacro.shtm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neovision.cz/prods/mfocus/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.neovision.cz/prods/mfocus/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.janrik.net/ptools/ExtendedFocusPano12&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.janrik.net/ptools/ExtendedFocusPano12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mikroskopie-mikrofotografie.de/foto/z_stapel.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mikroskopie-mikrofotografie.de/foto/z_stapel.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bewie.de/Download/MicroPicS/000_Einstieg.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bewie.de/Download/MicroPicS/000_Einstieg.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Btw, the focus-bracketing could even have a manual mode, for non-AF 
&lt;br&gt;lenses, like dedicated microscope stuff....if external image-software 
&lt;br&gt;can detect the exact sharp area within a layer, then internal 
&lt;br&gt;software should be able to give a signal when you run out of the 
&lt;br&gt;singular DOF (overlapping DOF is recommended). 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Willem 
&lt;br&gt;(wondering how well this would work with scanned analog images, 
&lt;br&gt;despite the recommendation to use only straight-digital....if only to 
&lt;br&gt;test this with 6x12cm panorama frames....turning a Noblex with focus-
&lt;br&gt;option or even macro-diopters into a much more interesting device) 
&lt;br&gt;Jan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;Bye,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Willem-Jan Markerink
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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&lt;br&gt;Checked by AVG Free Edition.
&lt;br&gt;Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/598 - Release Date: 12/22/2006
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8033306</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Focus-bracketing &amp; layered/stacked images to increase DOF</title>
	<published>2006-12-22T17:38:12Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-22T17:38:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Malcolm Stewart</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Willem-Jan Markerink&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=8033306&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;w.j.markerink@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=8033306&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 1:20 AM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: EOS Focus-bracketing &amp; layered/stacked images to increase DOF
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; After studying the fascinating concept of layered/stacked images, to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; achieve an infinite large DOF, and vaguely recalling that *some*
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; later DSLR's (or even compacts?) have focus-bracketing....
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ....I was wondering how long it would take before this stacking-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; software might become part of the OEM image-software, external or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; internal, in combination with such focus-bracketing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Some of these stacking programs &amp; fascinating samples:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heliconfocus.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.heliconfocus.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heliconfocus.com/pages/focus_overview.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.heliconfocus.com/pages/focus_overview.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Btw, the focus-bracketing could even have a manual mode, for non-AF
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; lenses, like dedicated microscope stuff....if external image-software
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; can detect the exact sharp area within a layer, then internal
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; software should be able to give a signal when you run out of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; singular DOF (overlapping DOF is recommended).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Willem
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (wondering how well this would work with scanned analog images,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; despite the recommendation to use only straight-digital....if only to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; test this with 6x12cm panorama frames....turning a Noblex with focus-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; option or even macro-diopters into a much more interesting device)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Jan
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bye,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Willem-Jan Markerink
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=8033306&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;w.j.markerink@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [note: 'a-one' &amp; 'en-el'!]
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Willem-Jan,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A friend with one of Canon's 65mm macro lenses (usable in the 1:1 to 5:1 
&lt;br&gt;range), used it on my EOS 10D and took something like 5 or 6 focus stacked 
&lt;br&gt;frames for each of a stereo pair of some quite small items in the extreme 
&lt;br&gt;close-up region. &amp;nbsp;Both sets were then put through.Heliconfocus, and printed 
&lt;br&gt;as a stereo pair. &amp;nbsp;The result on some of his samples were quite stunning 
&lt;br&gt;stereo images of items such as lichen.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Malcolm
&lt;br&gt;Milton Keynes, UK 
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8033218</id>
	<title>EOS Focus-bracketing &amp; layered/stacked images to increase DOF</title>
	<published>2006-12-22T17:20:19Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-22T17:20:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>WJM</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">After studying the fascinating concept of layered/stacked images, to 
&lt;br&gt;achieve an infinite large DOF, and vaguely recalling that *some* 
&lt;br&gt;later DSLR's (or even compacts?) have focus-bracketing....
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;....I was wondering how long it would take before this stacking-
&lt;br&gt;software might become part of the OEM image-software, external or 
&lt;br&gt;internal, in combination with such focus-bracketing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some of these stacking programs &amp; fascinating samples:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heliconfocus.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.heliconfocus.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heliconfocus.com/pages/focus_overview.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.heliconfocus.com/pages/focus_overview.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hadleyweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CZ5/combinez5.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hadleyweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CZ5/combinez5.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crystalcanyons.net/Pages/TechNotes/3DMicroMacro.shtm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.crystalcanyons.net/Pages/TechNotes/3DMicroMacro.shtm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neovision.cz/prods/mfocus/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.neovision.cz/prods/mfocus/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.janrik.net/ptools/ExtendedFocusPano12&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.janrik.net/ptools/ExtendedFocusPano12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mikroskopie-mikrofotografie.de/foto/z_stapel.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mikroskopie-mikrofotografie.de/foto/z_stapel.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bewie.de/Download/MicroPicS/000_Einstieg.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bewie.de/Download/MicroPicS/000_Einstieg.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Btw, the focus-bracketing could even have a manual mode, for non-AF 
&lt;br&gt;lenses, like dedicated microscope stuff....if external image-software 
&lt;br&gt;can detect the exact sharp area within a layer, then internal 
&lt;br&gt;software should be able to give a signal when you run out of the 
&lt;br&gt;singular DOF (overlapping DOF is recommended). 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Willem 
&lt;br&gt;(wondering how well this would work with scanned analog images, 
&lt;br&gt;despite the recommendation to use only straight-digital....if only to 
&lt;br&gt;test this with 6x12cm panorama frames....turning a Noblex with focus-
&lt;br&gt;option or even macro-diopters into a much more interesting device) 
&lt;br&gt;Jan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;Bye,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Willem-Jan Markerink
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The desire to understand 
&lt;br&gt;is sometimes far less intelligent than
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;the inability to understand
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<entry>
	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8027556</id>
	<title>EOS OT: DxO Raw Converter</title>
	<published>2006-12-22T02:47:30Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-22T02:47:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marco.Kost@t-online.de</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;font style=&quot;font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;Sorry for
being off topic.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;I wonder if anybody on
the list works with the latest version of DxO optics? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;At the moment I work with Photoshop 7 and Canons Raw
Converter. I would like to optimise workflows and would like to know if
Dxo Optics is a good overall tool or replacement.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;Especially the new Filmpack feature seems
interesting to me to simulate various analog films like Velvia. Although
shooting digital for over a year now with a 1D Mark II I´m still a
Velvia fan :-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;Thanks for any
feedback.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;And of course: Merry christmas and a
happy new year to all of you!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin:0px;&quot;&gt;Marco&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Marco Kost&lt;br /&gt;Freier
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8013366</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Firmware Updates</title>
	<published>2006-12-21T00:32:51Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-21T00:32:51Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cotty</name>
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	<content type="html">On 20/12/06, Mick McCarron, discombobulated, unleashed:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I updated my 1D mk2 a couple of days ago, the download file was 3.10MB 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;which was a self extracting file, the .bin file contained in the download 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;was 6.41MB
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Regards Mick
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;D'oh. I didn't check the extracted file size. Haste makes waste.
&lt;br&gt;Besides, what's a few points of a MB between friends ;-)
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8001219</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Firmware Updates</title>
	<published>2006-12-20T15:31:07Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-20T15:31:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mick McCarron</name>
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	<content type="html">At 20:57 20/12/2006 +0000, you wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;In case you didn't know.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;1DmII &amp;nbsp;1DmIIn 1DsmII &amp;nbsp;firmware updates available.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpreview.com/news/0612/06122001canonsdhcfirmware.asp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dpreview.com/news/0612/06122001canonsdhcfirmware.asp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I just did my 1DmII and although the shpeel said it would be a 6.4MB
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;file, it only downloaded a 3.2MB file. Did it anyway and it worked fine...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Happy holidays to one and all.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; Cotty
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I updated my 1D mk2 a couple of days ago, the download file was 3.10MB 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;which was a self extracting file, the .bin file contained in the download 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;was 6.41MB
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-8000504</id>
	<title>EOS Firmware Updates</title>
	<published>2006-12-20T12:57:24Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-20T12:57:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cotty</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">In case you didn't know.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1DmII &amp;nbsp;1DmIIn 1DsmII &amp;nbsp;firmware updates available.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpreview.com/news/0612/06122001canonsdhcfirmware.asp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dpreview.com/news/0612/06122001canonsdhcfirmware.asp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just did my 1DmII and although the shpeel said it would be a 6.4MB
&lt;br&gt;file, it only downloaded a 3.2MB file. Did it anyway and it worked fine...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Happy holidays to one and all.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Cotty
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7954573</id>
	<title>Re: EOS flash mount on 20D</title>
	<published>2006-12-19T08:19:08Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-19T08:19:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Richard Jones-5</name>
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	<content type="html">On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:08:11AM -0500, Julian Loke wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Refer to:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://eosdoc.com/manuals/?q=fixOCSC2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://eosdoc.com/manuals/?q=fixOCSC2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conraderb.com/flashrepair/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.conraderb.com/flashrepair/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great, thanks Julian,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those instructions were very useful and now my flash is firmly fixed on
&lt;br&gt;again and not wobbling round all over the place.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Richard
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7916448</id>
	<title>Re: EOS flash mount on 20D</title>
	<published>2006-12-17T06:08:11Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-17T06:08:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Julian Loke</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Hendrikus van der Veen&amp;quot; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This happens sometimes, and it is fairly simple to repair.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The flash mount is mounted with 4 screws. You can acces these screws by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; removing the black inside part of the flash-mount. You can do this bij lifting
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; up at the back side (2x) and then slide it off. It is a simple metal spring
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that covers the screws.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Tighten the screws and remount the black spring, and you are ready.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Drikus
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Refer to:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://eosdoc.com/manuals/?q=fixOCSC2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://eosdoc.com/manuals/?q=fixOCSC2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conraderb.com/flashrepair/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.conraderb.com/flashrepair/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7912348</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Off topic/brand question</title>
	<published>2006-12-16T14:14:39Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-16T14:14:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob W8IMO</name>
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	<content type="html">Duenas, Patricio wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Dear EOS Friends
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I need a 35mm film/scanner and I have an opportunity to go to Boston Mass. in January. My budget lures around 400-600 usd and it needs to be purchased in B&amp;H or in Boston (sorry for all the restrictions)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;On one hand I have heard good comments about the Nikon Coolscan (my budget matches the Nikon Coolscan V ED) and on the other I don't see any Canon scanners at B&amp;H (I'm loyal to the brand)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;You are the experts, what do you recommend?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Patricio Dueñas
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Mexico
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;Looking at &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&amp;fcategoryid=120&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&amp;fcategoryid=120&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Canon has the four flatbed scanners when you look fior &amp;quot;Film and 
&lt;br&gt;Negative Scanners&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;All are shown at B&amp;H website.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like Canon doesn't make any of the FS 2710 to 4000 &amp;nbsp;type film 
&lt;br&gt;scanners anymore.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7903083</id>
	<title>RE: EOS flash mount on 20D</title>
	<published>2006-12-15T16:41:46Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-15T16:41:46Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ken Lin-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; have any recommendations how to fix it.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Richard,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This happens sometimes, and it is fairly simple to repair.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The flash mount is mounted with 4 screws. You can acces these 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; screws by removing the black inside part of the flash-mount. You 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; can do this bij lifting up at the back side (2x) and then slide 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it off. It is a simple metal spring that covers the screws.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Tighten the screws and remount the black spring, and you are ready.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;I concur, Canon Canada fixed this for me (for free) in less then a couple of minutes, so I couldn't help but to try finding out how they can fix it so quickly, it was as indeed as simple as described above.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is assuming the loose screws are the only problem rather than anything that is worn or busted.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ken
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	<title>EOS Off topic/brand question</title>
	<published>2006-12-15T11:33:31Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-15T11:33:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Duenas, Patricio</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Dear EOS Friends
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I need a 35mm film/scanner and I have an opportunity to go to Boston Mass. in January. My budget lures around 400-600 usd and it needs to be purchased in B&amp;H or in Boston (sorry for all the restrictions)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On one hand I have heard good comments about the Nikon Coolscan (my budget matches the Nikon Coolscan V ED) and on the other I don't see any Canon scanners at B&amp;H (I'm loyal to the brand)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are the experts, what do you recommend?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Patricio Dueñas
&lt;br&gt;Mexico
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	<title>Re:EOS flash mount on 20D</title>
	<published>2006-12-15T04:22:54Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-15T04:22:54Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Hendrikus van der Veen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; have any recommendations how to fix it.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Richard,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This happens sometimes, and it is fairly simple to repair.
&lt;br&gt;The flash mount is mounted with 4 screws. You can acces these screws by removing the black inside part of the flash-mount. You can do this bij lifting up at the back side (2x) and then slide it off. It is a simple metal spring that covers the screws.
&lt;br&gt;Tighten the screws and remount the black spring, and you are ready.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Drikus
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7890522</id>
	<title>Re: EOS flash mount on 20D</title>
	<published>2006-12-15T02:32:25Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-15T02:32:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Malcolm Stewart</name>
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	<content type="html">----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Richard Jones&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=7890522&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;quot;eos&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=7890522&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:08 AM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: EOS flash mount on 20D
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The flash mount on my 20D has become very loose indeed. I don't suppose
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anyone else on the list has had this happen and have any recommendations
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; how to fix it. The camera's out of warranty.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If not, any pointers on how much it's going to cost to fix (GBP).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Merry Christmas!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; R
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Richard Jones
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why not try Canon UK or Lehmanns in Stoke, or others in the following? &amp;nbsp;All 
&lt;br&gt;copied from Canon's website
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;A.J.Johnstone &amp; Company Limited (Photo - Digital Compacts)
&lt;br&gt;395-399 Central Chambers
&lt;br&gt;93 Hope Street
&lt;br&gt;Glasgow
&lt;br&gt;G2 6LD
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 0141 221 2106
&lt;br&gt;Fax: 0141 221 9166
&lt;br&gt;Web: www.ajjohnstone.co.uk
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Canon (UK) RCC (Pro Camera, Video including HD models, Projector, Compact 
&lt;br&gt;Photo Printer, Binoculars, Dedicated 35mm Slide Film Scanners - 2700F, 
&lt;br&gt;FS2710, &amp; the FS4000 models)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PO BOX 630
&lt;br&gt;Borehamwood
&lt;br&gt;WD6 9AW
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 08705 143 723
&lt;br&gt;Fax: 020 8731 4139
&lt;br&gt;Web: www.canon.co.uk
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Colchester Camera Repair Services (Photo - Digital Compacts and SLR)
&lt;br&gt;6 Kings Court
&lt;br&gt;Off Newcomen Way
&lt;br&gt;Severalls Business Park
&lt;br&gt;Colchester
&lt;br&gt;CO4 9RA
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 01206 843 322
&lt;br&gt;Fax: 01206 843 323
&lt;br&gt;Web: www.camera-repair.co.uk
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;H. Lehmann Limited (Photo - Digital Compacts and SLR, Video - except HD 
&lt;br&gt;Models)
&lt;br&gt;247-249 London Road
&lt;br&gt;Stoke-on-Trent
&lt;br&gt;ST4 5AA
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 01782 413 611
&lt;br&gt;Fax: 01782 744 579
&lt;br&gt;Web: www.lehmannsdirect.co.uk
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Fixation (Pro-Photo - Except EOS 300D &amp; EOS 350D SLR cameras)
&lt;br&gt;Suite 508
&lt;br&gt;71 Bondway
&lt;br&gt;London
&lt;br&gt;SW8 1SQ
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 0207 582 3294
&lt;br&gt;Fax: 0207 582 9052
&lt;br&gt;Web: www.fixationuk.com
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Plymcare (Video - except HD models)
&lt;br&gt;Marshall Road
&lt;br&gt;Plymton
&lt;br&gt;Plymouth
&lt;br&gt;Devon
&lt;br&gt;PL7 1YB
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 01752 303 555
&lt;br&gt;Fax: 01752 303 553
&lt;br&gt;Web: www.plymco.co.uk
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Videotech (UK) Limited (Video - except HD models)
&lt;br&gt;Unit 5b Kayley Industrial Estate
&lt;br&gt;Richmond Street
&lt;br&gt;Ashton-under-Lyne
&lt;br&gt;OL7 0AU
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 0161 308 4092
&lt;br&gt;Fax: 0161 343 2589
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of the above, I've dealt with Canon and Lehmanns.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Malcolm
&lt;br&gt;Milton Keynes, UK
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7889326</id>
	<title>EOS flash mount on 20D</title>
	<published>2006-12-15T02:08:38Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-15T02:08:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Richard Jones-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The flash mount on my 20D has become very loose indeed. I don't suppose
&lt;br&gt;anyone else on the list has had this happen and have any recommendations
&lt;br&gt;how to fix it. The camera's out of warranty.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If not, any pointers on how much it's going to cost to fix (GBP).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Merry Christmas!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;R
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7887539</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Full Frame Sensor Light Fall-Off Test</title>
	<published>2006-12-14T23:53:33Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-14T23:53:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Malcolm Stewart</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Cotty&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=7887539&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cottycam@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;quot;EOS list&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=7887539&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:57 PM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: EOS Full Frame Sensor Light Fall-Off Test
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On 14/12/06, Malcolm Stewart, discombobulated, unleashed:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;My current gripe with my 5D is that the central AF spot is ever so 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;slightly
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;lower than the rectangle marker in the viewfinder. Has lead to quite a few
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;out of focus shots (similar to front focusing, which it isn't) of small
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;birds against near glancing angle backgrounds such as paths etc.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I take it you've seen this?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/5d-field.shtml&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/5d-field.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;Cotty
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Cotty,
&lt;br&gt;Thanks for reminding me - I had seen that review earlier, and I've also 
&lt;br&gt;spent much time recently re-reading 5D and 1D MkII (&amp;N) reviews. &amp;nbsp;I've also 
&lt;br&gt;dusted off my EOS 3 and shot similar scenes with that camera. and checked 
&lt;br&gt;the critically sharp hit rate. &amp;nbsp;Like an idiot I used negative film which I 
&lt;br&gt;thought I could assess under a microscope - not as well as I need, so I'll 
&lt;br&gt;probably repeat using slide film.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the mean time, I am surprised by the high price of used 1D MkII* and N 
&lt;br&gt;variant bodies - in the case of an N rather too close to the latest prices 
&lt;br&gt;for a totally new camera, with a full year's warranty.
&lt;br&gt;*Although I did chase after one at £900 for a few days. &amp;nbsp;Backed out as I 
&lt;br&gt;became very suspicious of the seller's real intentions.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Malcolm
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7879644</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Full Frame Sensor Light Fall-Off Test</title>
	<published>2006-12-14T10:57:50Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-14T10:57:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cotty</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On 14/12/06, Malcolm Stewart, discombobulated, unleashed:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;A useful reference. &amp;nbsp;In practice, and over several thousand shots in the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;last year, with my 5D, I've only observed the light fall-off when doing 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;tests specifically looking for it. &amp;nbsp;The effect seems totally absent (!) 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;when I check out my 17-35 EX HSM Sigma (original model). &amp;nbsp;Don't know why - 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;the AF motor on the Sigma has failed so my usable widest is the EF 20 f2.8, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;which can be horrific at f2.8 on some shots, and less so on others.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;My current gripe with my 5D is that the central AF spot is ever so slightly 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;lower than the rectangle marker in the viewfinder. Has lead to quite a few 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;out of focus shots (similar to front focusing, which it isn't) of small 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;birds against near glancing angle backgrounds such as paths etc.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I take it you've seen this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/5d-field.shtml&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/5d-field.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Cotty
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7869104</id>
	<title>Re: EOS Full Frame Sensor Light Fall-Off Test</title>
	<published>2006-12-14T01:18:06Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-14T01:18:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Malcolm Stewart</name>
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	<content type="html">----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Cotty&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=7869104&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cottycam@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:33 AM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: EOS Full Frame Sensor Light Fall-Off Test
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Found on another list...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ejphoto.com/1ds2_vs_5d.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ejphoto.com/1ds2_vs_5d.htm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;Cotty
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks Cotty.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A useful reference. &amp;nbsp;In practice, and over several thousand shots in the 
&lt;br&gt;last year, with my 5D, I've only observed the light fall-off when doing 
&lt;br&gt;tests specifically looking for it. &amp;nbsp;The effect seems totally absent (!) 
&lt;br&gt;when I check out my 17-35 EX HSM Sigma (original model). &amp;nbsp;Don't know why - 
&lt;br&gt;the AF motor on the Sigma has failed so my usable widest is the EF 20 f2.8, 
&lt;br&gt;which can be horrific at f2.8 on some shots, and less so on others.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My current gripe with my 5D is that the central AF spot is ever so slightly 
&lt;br&gt;lower than the rectangle marker in the viewfinder. Has lead to quite a few 
&lt;br&gt;out of focus shots (similar to front focusing, which it isn't) of small 
&lt;br&gt;birds against near glancing angle backgrounds such as paths etc.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Malcolm
&lt;br&gt;Milton Keynes, UK
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7870038</id>
	<title>EOS Full Frame Sensor Light Fall-Off Test</title>
	<published>2006-12-13T23:33:10Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-13T23:33:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cotty</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Found on another list...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ejphoto.com/1ds2_vs_5d.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ejphoto.com/1ds2_vs_5d.htm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Cotty
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7856767</id>
	<title>RE: EOS RAW files and their future</title>
	<published>2006-12-13T05:35:53Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-13T05:35:53Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Valencic Miha</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; have you done any web searching??
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have, but nothing really useful.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have you found this page?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/dng/safety.htm#completeness&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/dng/safety.htm#completeness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No. And may I say this is an excellent resource. Thanks! I will also
&lt;br&gt;browse through the Adobe forums, mentioned on this page. For others:
&lt;br&gt;apparently, the case is this: [executive summary :)]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If your camera's RAW format is fully supported by DNG Converter, you
&lt;br&gt;don't loose a thing by converting to DNG. If it is not, you can loose
&lt;br&gt;some of the metadata, and (probably?) some of the image data when the
&lt;br&gt;image is not written in a form that ACR understands... The list of
&lt;br&gt;supported cameras:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Miha
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
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	<title>RE: EOS RAW files and their future</title>
	<published>2006-12-12T18:55:10Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-12T18:55:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>cjeastwd</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Willem and Rick, you are both to the point. I just did a test: 8,5 MB
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;CR2 file from 30D becomes 8MB DNG file,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;16,5MB DNG file with embedded original, a whopping 32 MB linear DNG, and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;~40MB linear DNG with embedded original RAW file. Yikes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ahha, I missed from your post that you were meaning DNG when you said
&lt;br&gt;'digital negative'
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;And I still don't know whether I have the same &amp;quot;flexibility&amp;quot; with DNG as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I do with RAW. Linear seems to have more info (at least the full bits
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you do ... it keeps everything
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I use dng, as I have a 20D and a CP 5000 that both make raw
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I DO not embedd the original file
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;have you done any web searching??
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;have you found this page?
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	<id>tag:www.nabble.com,2006:post-7848079</id>
	<title>Re: EOS How to use IS with 100-400 L?</title>
	<published>2006-12-12T13:04:19Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-12T13:04:19Z</updated>
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		<name>Pattie Anderson</name>
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	<content type="html">Thanks to all for your suggestions.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I used the lens at two games last weekend and liked it (and the
&lt;br&gt;results) better than I thought I would, but am still torn as to
&lt;br&gt;whether to ask Santa to bring me one due to the drawbacks. &amp;nbsp;Something
&lt;br&gt;to think about. &amp;nbsp;:-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks again!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pattie
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	<title>RE: EOS RAW files and their future</title>
	<published>2006-12-12T01:27:21Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-12T01:27:21Z</updated>
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		<name>cjeastwd</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have some different RAW format files (D30, 10D, 300D and 30D). When I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; want the best quality or when the lighting is tricky, I tend to use RAW
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for capturing images.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Lately, I started to wonder how will I open my old (say D30) raw files a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; couple of years from now. The format is not the same as the new RAW
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; files, so I can not count that this will be supported forever. For
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; instance, when the new OS comes out (like MS Vista), I have no guarantee
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that Canon will release a library that will read the &amp;quot;old&amp;quot; formats.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;your could perhaps try to convert all now to the Adobe DNG format, as I
&lt;br&gt;understand it, it will support the lossless storage of all the data
&lt;br&gt;contained in the RAW formats.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suspect that it'll transcend platforms, and while it may require
&lt;br&gt;licencing, it'll be perhaps as persistant as Adobe is.
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	<title>RE: EOS RAW files and their future</title>
	<published>2006-12-11T15:48:49Z</published>
	<updated>2006-12-11T15:48:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Valencic Miha</name>
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	<content type="html">Tapani, that is a clever hint. Thank you. I remeber now that you wrote
&lt;br&gt;about this some time ago. I will do the same, thank you. And this will
&lt;br&gt;certainly help me, since I am a developer, so C is no problem. In that
&lt;br&gt;case, I don't have to really worry. I will just create jpeg files to go
&lt;br&gt;with the RAW files (for quick viewing, web publishing etc).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Miha
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ps: [totally off-topic] I use IMatch for DAM (digital asset management)
&lt;br&gt;and it is a very fine and capable program, which does the RAW conversion
&lt;br&gt;as well (using the Canon SDK). For RAW processing I use RSE, and now
&lt;br&gt;increasingly Lightroom. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I save a copy of dcraw.c on every CD/DVD of raw photos.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm pretty sure C compilers will be around long enough for my 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; photo needs.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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