Can't cold boot new 5501

[Stephen Melvin]

For what it's worth, I've noticed in my own testing two distinct cold boot
issues and I suspect that 1.33c may address only one.

I bought five Transcend 1GB Industrial cards and have been doing extensive
testing on them on net5501's for the last few months.  First, I had to
upgrade to BIOS 1.33b, with bios 1.33 they didn't cold boot reliably at all.
The 1.33 symptom was that the BIOS would fail to recognize that the CF card
was installed at the very beginning and just stall.  On warm boot with 1.33,
the cards worked fine.

Further testing with 1.33b has revealed that two of the five cards still do
not cold boot properly.  The other three work fine.  The new failure symptom
is that the cards find the CF card, go all the way through boot and then
fail at "mountroot" when no disks have been recognized by GOEM.  Again, warm
boot fixes the problem, and the two 'bad' cards work fine.  The other three
cards do not stall at "mountroot" and boot reliably.

It sounds like the problem Scott is having is with the second problem (i.e.
the card is initially recognized and boot starts but then is not recognized)
rather than the first.  By the way, I've decided to punt on the Transcend
cards and go with Sandisk.

Steve
 

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[mailto:soekris-tech-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Scott Reber
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [Soekris] Can't cold boot new 5501

> -----Original Message-----
> From: soekris-tech-bounces@... [mailto:soekris-tech-
> bounces@...] On Behalf Of Darrick Hartman (lists)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:03 PM
> To: Steve Clark
> Cc: soekris-tech@...
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Can't cold boot new 5501
>
> Steve Clark wrote:
> > Chris Babcock wrote:
> >> Scott Reber wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am not able to get m0n0wall 1.3b13 to cold boot on a Soekris
> 5501 with
> >>> combios 1.33c.  I just received two of these units today and
> both
> >>> exhibit the same symptoms.  M0n0wall begins to boot and pauses
> for quite
> >>> a while detecting ata0 and apparently detects no disk.  It does
> the same
> >>> for ata1.  This causes a fatal error "The device that contains
> the
> >>> configuration file (config.xml) could not be found. M0n0wall
> cannot
> >>> continue booting."  Setting flash=primary|secondary does not
> make any
> >>> difference.
> >>>
> >>> If I press a key to reboot the configuration file is found.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have a fix?
> >>>
> >> This sounds like you may be using a CF card that doesn't work
> properly.
> >>   What kind of CF card are you using? (If it's not a SanDisk
> brand card,
> >> you may want to try using one.)
> >>
> >> -Chris
>
> >>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > If it is the CF why does it work on the reboot? Sounds like the
> combios is not setting
> > something up correctly on cold boot - but the OS sort of fixes it
> on the first boot and on
> > the reboot everything is OK.
>
> Please read the archives, this has been discussed and explained
> before.
>   Basically the cards don't set the cable-select feature properly.
> When
> rebooting, the card has the correct setting.  Perhaps they can work
> around this with a future combios hack.
>
> For what it's worth, I've been using Transcend Industrial cards and
> have not had a problem (other than the cards are consistently
> recognized as secondary master instead of primary master.  (no other
> storage media installed).
>
> Darrick
> --
> Darrick Hartman
> DJH Solutions, LLC
> http://www.djhsolutions.com
> http://www.djhsolutions.com/wiki

Yes, I'm aware of the past difficulties.  However, I just received these two
units today, 7/22/2008.  I was under the impression that the shipping delays
and announcement from Soren on 7/9 meant these issues were supposed to be
behind us.

-Scott

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[Scott Reber]

I am not able to get m0n0wall 1.3b13 to cold boot on a Soekris 5501 with
combios 1.33c.  I just received two of these units today and both
exhibit the same symptoms.  M0n0wall begins to boot and pauses for quite
a while detecting ata0 and apparently detects no disk.  It does the same
for ata1.  This causes a fatal error "The device that contains the
configuration file (config.xml) could not be found. M0n0wall cannot
continue booting."  Setting flash=primary|secondary does not make any
difference.

If I press a key to reboot the configuration file is found.

Does anyone have a fix?

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[Chris Babcock-3]

Scott Reber wrote:

> I am not able to get m0n0wall 1.3b13 to cold boot on a Soekris 5501 with
> combios 1.33c.  I just received two of these units today and both
> exhibit the same symptoms.  M0n0wall begins to boot and pauses for quite
> a while detecting ata0 and apparently detects no disk.  It does the same
> for ata1.  This causes a fatal error "The device that contains the
> configuration file (config.xml) could not be found. M0n0wall cannot
> continue booting."  Setting flash=primary|secondary does not make any
> difference.
>
> If I press a key to reboot the configuration file is found.
>
> Does anyone have a fix?
>

This sounds like you may be using a CF card that doesn't work properly.
  What kind of CF card are you using? (If it's not a SanDisk brand card,
you may want to try using one.)

-Chris
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[Steve Clark]

Chris Babcock wrote:

> Scott Reber wrote:
>
>>I am not able to get m0n0wall 1.3b13 to cold boot on a Soekris 5501 with
>>combios 1.33c.  I just received two of these units today and both
>>exhibit the same symptoms.  M0n0wall begins to boot and pauses for quite
>>a while detecting ata0 and apparently detects no disk.  It does the same
>>for ata1.  This causes a fatal error "The device that contains the
>>configuration file (config.xml) could not be found. M0n0wall cannot
>>continue booting."  Setting flash=primary|secondary does not make any
>>difference.
>>
>>If I press a key to reboot the configuration file is found.
>>
>>Does anyone have a fix?
>>
>
> This sounds like you may be using a CF card that doesn't work properly.
>   What kind of CF card are you using? (If it's not a SanDisk brand card,
> you may want to try using one.)
>
> -Chris
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>
>

Hi Chris,

If it is the CF why does it work on the reboot? Sounds like the combios is not setting
something up correctly on cold boot - but the OS sort of fixes it on the first boot and on
the reboot everything is OK.

Steve
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[Darrick Hartman (lists)]

Steve Clark wrote:

> Chris Babcock wrote:
>> Scott Reber wrote:
>>
>>> I am not able to get m0n0wall 1.3b13 to cold boot on a Soekris 5501 with
>>> combios 1.33c.  I just received two of these units today and both
>>> exhibit the same symptoms.  M0n0wall begins to boot and pauses for quite
>>> a while detecting ata0 and apparently detects no disk.  It does the same
>>> for ata1.  This causes a fatal error "The device that contains the
>>> configuration file (config.xml) could not be found. M0n0wall cannot
>>> continue booting."  Setting flash=primary|secondary does not make any
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> If I press a key to reboot the configuration file is found.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a fix?
>>>
>> This sounds like you may be using a CF card that doesn't work properly.
>>   What kind of CF card are you using? (If it's not a SanDisk brand card,
>> you may want to try using one.)
>>
>> -Chris

>>
> Hi Chris,
>
> If it is the CF why does it work on the reboot? Sounds like the combios is not setting
> something up correctly on cold boot - but the OS sort of fixes it on the first boot and on
> the reboot everything is OK.

Please read the archives, this has been discussed and explained before.
  Basically the cards don't set the cable-select feature properly.  When
rebooting, the card has the correct setting.  Perhaps they can work
around this with a future combios hack.

For what it's worth, I've been using Transcend Industrial cards and have
not had a problem (other than the cards are consistently recognized as
secondary master instead of primary master.  (no other storage media
installed).

Darrick
--
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DJH Solutions, LLC
http://www.djhsolutions.com
http://www.djhsolutions.com/wiki
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[Scott Reber]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: soekris-tech-bounces@... [mailto:soekris-tech-
> bounces@...] On Behalf Of Darrick Hartman (lists)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:03 PM
> To: Steve Clark
> Cc: soekris-tech@...
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Can't cold boot new 5501
>
> Steve Clark wrote:
> > Chris Babcock wrote:
> >> Scott Reber wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am not able to get m0n0wall 1.3b13 to cold boot on a Soekris
> 5501 with
> >>> combios 1.33c.  I just received two of these units today and
> both
> >>> exhibit the same symptoms.  M0n0wall begins to boot and pauses
> for quite
> >>> a while detecting ata0 and apparently detects no disk.  It does
> the same
> >>> for ata1.  This causes a fatal error "The device that contains
> the
> >>> configuration file (config.xml) could not be found. M0n0wall
> cannot
> >>> continue booting."  Setting flash=primary|secondary does not
> make any
> >>> difference.
> >>>
> >>> If I press a key to reboot the configuration file is found.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have a fix?
> >>>
> >> This sounds like you may be using a CF card that doesn't work
> properly.
> >>   What kind of CF card are you using? (If it's not a SanDisk
> brand card,
> >> you may want to try using one.)
> >>
> >> -Chris
>
> >>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > If it is the CF why does it work on the reboot? Sounds like the
> combios is not setting
> > something up correctly on cold boot - but the OS sort of fixes it
> on the first boot and on
> > the reboot everything is OK.
>
> Please read the archives, this has been discussed and explained
> before.
>   Basically the cards don't set the cable-select feature properly.
> When
> rebooting, the card has the correct setting.  Perhaps they can work
> around this with a future combios hack.
>
> For what it's worth, I've been using Transcend Industrial cards and
> have
> not had a problem (other than the cards are consistently recognized
> as
> secondary master instead of primary master.  (no other storage
> media
> installed).
>
> Darrick
> --
> Darrick Hartman
> DJH Solutions, LLC
> http://www.djhsolutions.com
> http://www.djhsolutions.com/wiki

Yes, I'm aware of the past difficulties.  However, I just received these
two units today, 7/22/2008.  I was under the impression that the
shipping delays and announcement from Soren on 7/9 meant these issues
were supposed to be behind us.

-Scott

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