Blogger versus WordPress versus TypePad

[Bryan J Busch]

I've used nearly every popular weblog CMS at some point, and I think
I am finally settled on WordPress for two major "selling" points:

1) Plugins

2) Talented developers


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[Tiago Marques]

Hello creative people,
 
Can I get your opinion on blogging services? I'm unsure on which one to start using: Blogger, WordPress or TypePad.
 
Since most of us blog nowadays - it's a nice way to show people and potential clients how smart and alert we are to our "design surroundings" (from evil toasters to human social interaction), and a way to bypass the fact that many clients won't let us publish the work we did for them on our portfolios - I thought you guys might be able to give me an opinion.
 
I'm looking for services that allow flexibility regarding media (embedded Flash files and other media would be nice, Flickr already covers sharing of images and movies) and privacy (some of the blogs and posts I plan to create will be semi-public). Also, the blogs and media should be hosted by the services themselves, not my own server.
 
Cheers,
 
Tiago
 
 
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[Itamar Medeiros-2]

Well said, Bryan! The current (and growing!) base of Wordpress
users/developers makes it a very good choice!

I've been using Wordpress myself, and I find it's framework quite
easy to understand, to that I make make adjustments in the layout
without "super-hacks" that other CMS tools require!


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[mirweis SANGIN]

I would also suggest WordPress as my preferred choice; although
depending on the version you use, there are some usability bloopers
that I found quite annoying in the past. For instance, if you use
their on-line publishing interface, in some version, the highlighted
button is the "save" button, even though the most relevant action
when you've finished blogging is usually to "publish" the post
(see here). It leads to the annoying process of always wondering what
happened to your post and figure out that it was actually saved as
draft. Just an anecdote :)


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[TPvsWP]

I would definitely settle for WordPress. I have only little experience
with Blogger, but I have used typepad.com and wordpress.com
extensively. I have no idea about wordpress.org, since wordpress.com
is more than sufficient for me and my needs and has all the
flexibility I need, despite some limitations.


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[Elizabeth-18]

What about blogging services that make it easy to create accessible
content?  

I've used joomla, blogger and tumblr, and although tumblr and
blogger make it easy to just sit down and start blogging, they don't
prompt for alt tags when you upload a photo for example, - something I
would like to see to encourage the practice of creating accessible
content - without people even needing to know what html is!


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[Ashim]

As a long time *free* subscriber to both Wordpress and Blogger, I lean
towards Wordpress. Some of my observations-

+ves
1 Wordpress has the 'Categories' feature where you can categorize each post.
Blogger 2.0 has 'Labels' plug-in, but its not the same thing.
2 Wordpress supports multiple pages in a blog, where Blogger does not.
3 Wordpress templates looks 'cleaner' than Blogger.
4 The 'Stats' section is great in Wordpress!

-ves
1 Wordpress does not allow modifying the CSS of the template (cannot add
Adsense to the template or images to the side-bar ).
2 Inserting tables is a pain in posts in Wordpress, easy in Blogger.
3 Blogger automaticaly generates an RSS feed for the blog.

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[AJKock]

1 Wordpress does not allow modifying the CSS of the template (cannot
add
Adsense to the template or images to the side-bar ).

This is possible.


2 Inserting tables is a pain in posts in Wordpress, easy in Blogger.

There is a plugin for WordPress that allows old fashion tables.
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[Tiago Marques]

Hi Elizabeth, "Flexibility" is one of the issues I had in mind in my research for a rich blogging service, and accessibility-promoting features would be welcome. If a service forces me to think or do too much in order to obtain something (in this case, hand-coding in order to make everybody else's life easier), chances are I'll bypass it and just focus on the content (hey, the day only has 24 hours...). Thank you to all who've replied to this thread -WordPress' my choice for my upcoming blogs :) Now, to find some place to host my media files and link them to my blogs for live access...  (A conundrum: if my blog is private and you need a password to view it, and my Flickr media are private and you need a password to view them, can I still access my Flickr photos and videos from within my blog? Or has privacy just backfired onto me? Hmmm.) Cheers, Tiago

> To: discuss@...> From: esp.parham@...> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:45:07 +0000> Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Blogger versus WordPress versus TypePad> > What about blogging services that make it easy to create accessible> content? > > I've used joomla, blogger and tumblr, and although tumblr and> blogger make it easy to just sit down and start blogging, they don't> prompt for alt tags when you upload a photo for example, - something I> would like to see to encourage the practice of creating accessible> content - without people even needing to know what html is!> > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .> Posted from the new ixda.org> http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=31497> > > ________________________________________________________________> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!> To post to this list ....... discuss@...> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe> List Guidelines ............ http:/
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[Tiago Marques]

Hi Elizabeth,
 
"Flexibility" is one of the issues I had in mind in my research for a rich blogging service, and accessibility-promoting features would be welcome. If a service forces me to think or do too much in order to obtain something (in this case, hand-coding in order to make everybody else's life easier), chances are I'll bypass it and just focus on the content (hey, the day only has 24 hours...).
 
Thank you to all who've replied to this thread -WordPress' my choice for my upcoming blogs :) Now, to find some place to host my media files and link them to my blogs for live access...
 
(A conundrum: if my blog is private and you need a password to view it, and my Flickr media are private and you need a password to view them, can I still access my Flickr photos and videos from within my blog? Or has privacy just backfired onto me? Hmmm.)
 
Cheers,
 
Tiago



> To: discuss@...> From: esp.parham@...> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:45:07 +0000> Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Blogger versus WordPress versus TypePad> > What about blogging services that make it easy to create accessible> content? > > I've used joomla, blogger and tumblr, and although tumblr and> blogger make it easy to just sit down and start blogging, they don't> prompt for alt tags when you upload a photo for example, - something I> would like to see to encourage the practice of creating accessible> content - without people even needing to know what html is!> > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .> Posted from the new ixda.org> http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=31497> > > ________________________________________________________________> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!> To post to this list ....... discuss@...> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe> List Guidelines ............ http:/
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[dnp607]

I was swayed by the fact that Wordpress's documentation is stellar,  
informative and downright educational - especially with respect to CSS.

Best,
-D

On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Tiago Marques wrote:

> Hello creative people,
>
> Can I get your opinion on blogging services? I'm unsure on which  
> one to start using: Blogger, WordPress or TypePad.
>
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[TPvsWP]

I recently migrated from typepad.com to wordpress.com, and although  I
feel slightly more constrained than before as in not being able to add
Javascripts and such, there is so much more functionality in
wordpress.com versus typepad.com that this convinced me to do the
switch, after some serious testing and posting. In terms of embedding
media files I assume a self-hosted wordpress.org installation would
allow for the flexibility you are looking for.


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[Elena Melendy]

Thanks for raising this issue, Tiago. I'm in the process of designing a
simple personal website, basically in blog format but on a domain I own,
and I'm paying for hosting. I started out with Wordpress but got fed up
with its inflexibility. I've started again with Drupal. Before I invest
too much time in learning it, does anyone have experience with both
Drupal and Joomla (or any other free CMS) and an opinion on which offers
the most flexibility for design (which I can do myself) plus the most
available working scripts/functions/modules/widgets (which I don't want
to learn to code and don't have the time to troubleshoot).

I've already done extensive research, but am looking for personal
opinions from design-sensitive folks. Thanks.

Elena

>
> Tiago wrote:
>> Hello creative people,
>>
>> Can I get your opinion on blogging services? I'm unsure on which one
>> to start using: Blogger, WordPress or TypePad.
>>
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[Santiago Bustelo]

Elena, can you be more specific about WordPress "inflexibility"?
Either I am not understanding your problem, or you are dealing with
restrictions that are a result from working around an existing
template instead of building your own.

If you are hosting your own website, you are not constrained to
customize just the CSS, nor to follow a rigid structure for your
HTML. With WordPress templating system, you are free to start your
template from scratch, as well as using different templates for
different sections of the website.

You have full design freedom. The CMS function is to feed your
template with content, not to structure your design.


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[Jeff lippiatt]

Elena,
I've been researching CMS for a while myself, and have done a few
builds to see what kind of flexibility is available. I personally
have not touched Drupal, but I did start with a build of Joomla! 1.0
and now have two builds of Joomla! 1.5 in the works, with a third
upcoming.
I am overall pleased with Joomla! as I have been learning more by
using it. I have also tried Dolphin which is made by boonex ( I do
not recommend Dolphin) not as free as you think and very hard to
understand...
Joomla!, however has won me over. on the joomla.org page if you click
on extensions there are a wide variety of add-ons that fall into a few
categories: free, register and free (meaning have to sign up on a site
to get to the download but still free), purchase once (usually
reasonable prices), subscription purchase (varies from a few months
to a year).
The development community for Joomla! is big, and you can find plenty
of templates and add-ons for free or reasonably priced. You may want
to check out these sites about Joomla!:  http://yootheme.com ,
http://youjoomla.com and http://joomsuite.com 
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[Seamus Byrne-3]

 1 for WordPress. I have used it many times (both the downloadable
version and the hosting service version (wordpress.com)

I find it especially easy to set up for clients and there are a
fantastic array of stunning visual themes available, that are very
easy to swap out.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, there are loads of useful plugins
that are easy to activate providing a plethora of useful
functionality.

Recently, I had to choose between WordPress and Joomla for a
collaborative Blog. After taking some serious time to evaluate the
two, WordPress won hands down due to its level of sophistication when
it comes to catering to the specific needs of bloggers.

Another point is that it is totally easy to set up and manage
multiple author accounts when there is more than one contributer to
the blog.

I find the interface to be extremely well designed and intuitive, and
my visual designer side is continually surprised by the countless
novel ideas that I encounter when perusing the WordPress world.


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[John Chin-2]

I use blogger and Google announced a related product called a "knol"
Google states:
"One other important difference between Knol and Blogger is that Knol
encourages you to reveal your true identity.
Knols are meant to be authoritative articles, and, therefore, they have a
strong focus on authors and their credentials.
We feel that this focus will help ensure that authors get credit for their
work, make the content more credible."

I'm curious what people think of this.  Does typepad or wordpress make this
distinction?
Thanks,
John

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:31 AM, TPvsWP <tpvswp@...> wrote:

> I recently migrated from typepad.com to wordpress.com, and although  I
> feel slightly more constrained than before as in not being able to add
> Javascripts and such, there is so much more functionality in
> wordpress.com versus typepad.com that this convinced me to do the
> switch, after some serious testing and posting. In terms of embedding
> media files I assume a self-hosted wordpress.org installation would
> allow for the flexibility you are looking for.
>
>
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