Blind user requires assistance

[Alan Yoder]

Quite some time ago I read an article about a sound editor designed in
SC that was specifically designed for the blind user.
Unfortunately I forget where this article is and who the developer is.
I'd like to get in touch with them to see if I could get a copy of this
editor, I'd be willing to provide feedback of course as another blind user.
If there's any other blind SC users about I'd like to speak with them as
well for any tips and ideas they might have.
Thanks.


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[Julian Rohrhuber]

If I remember right, Julio d'Escrivan was working on this.

>Quite some time ago I read an article about a sound editor designed
>in SC that was specifically designed for the blind user.
>Unfortunately I forget where this article is and who the developer is.
>I'd like to get in touch with them to see if I could get a copy of
>this editor, I'd be willing to provide feedback of course as another
>blind user.
>If there's any other blind SC users about I'd like to speak with
>them as well for any tips and ideas they might have.
>Thanks.
>
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[tom tlalim-2]

yes, together with jan trutzschler

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On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Julian Rohrhuber <rohrhuber@...> wrote:

If I remember right, Julio d'Escrivan was working on this.

Quite some time ago I read an article about a sound editor designed in SC that was specifically designed for the blind user.
Unfortunately I forget where this article is and who the developer is.
I'd like to get in touch with them to see if I could get a copy of this editor, I'd be willing to provide feedback of course as another blind user.
If there's any other blind SC users about I'd like to speak with them as well for any tips and ideas they might have.
Thanks.


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[nescivi]

Hiho,

On Friday 27 June 2008 16:04:08 Alan Yoder wrote:
> Quite some time ago I read an article about a sound editor designed in
> SC that was specifically designed for the blind user.

If it is just for a sound editor (and SC is not essential)...
you may want to look at Ecasound
http://www.eca.cx/ecasound/
It's a commandline based multitrackeditor on Linux.
There are some good tutorials written by blind users of it.

In any case, for blind users, I think Linux is the way to go, as there are
several other text based audio apps there...

sincerely,
Marije

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[Jan Trutzschler-2]

Hi Alan,
yes, we designed a prototype, which can be used to do basic  
multitrack mixing. after having sorted out a few issues this  
prototype will be actually released (though a few other issues will  
still remain, until we get into another phase of development). But i  
can send you a copy off list.
best,
Jan

On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Alan Yoder wrote:

> Quite some time ago I read an article about a sound editor designed  
> in SC that was specifically designed for the blind user.
> Unfortunately I forget where this article is and who the developer is.
> I'd like to get in touch with them to see if I could get a copy of  
> this editor, I'd be willing to provide feedback of course as  
> another blind user.
> If there's any other blind SC users about I'd like to speak with  
> them as well for any tips and ideas they might have.
> Thanks.
>
>
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[Jan Trutzschler-2]

sorry, but i doubt this, setting up linux and hardware without a  
standard voice over or screen reader would be quite a challenge, i  
imagine.
anyway, thanks for the link, looks interesting.
j

On Jun 28, 2008, at 1:28 AM, nescivi wrote:

> In any case, for blind users, I think Linux is the way to go, as  
> there are
> several other text based audio apps there...


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[nescivi]

On Friday 27 June 2008 20:05:59 Jan Trutzschler wrote:
> sorry, but i doubt this, setting up linux and hardware without a
> standard voice over or screen reader would be quite a challenge, i
> imagine.
> anyway, thanks for the link, looks interesting.

command lines and braille interfaces work fine under Linux.
In the linux audio community there seem to be quite a few blind users...

sincerely,
Marije

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[Alan Yoder]

Jan Trutzschler wrote:

> sorry, but i doubt this, setting up linux and hardware without a
> standard voice over or screen reader would be quite a challenge, i
> imagine.
> anyway, thanks for the link, looks interesting.
> j
>
> On Jun 28, 2008, at 1:28 AM, nescivi wrote:
>
>> In any case, for blind users, I think Linux is the way to go, as
>> there are
>> several other text based audio apps there...
>
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There are several screen reader packages for linux.
Those that I have researched are quite useful.
They seem (the console based ones anyway) to integrate right into the
kernel.
Those readers for the various GUI desktops and such that exist do not,
they run on top of those GUIs, though this isn't all that bad, because
windows screen readers do the same thing.


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[julio]

Hi Alan,

Just to say hello, and that it would be good to network with you so  
you can give us feedback on the app as we are hoping to develop an  
extensive project on this... Let's email off list !

best !
Julio



On 28 Jun 2008, at 02:54, Jan Trutzschler wrote:

> Hi Alan,
> yes, we designed a prototype, which can be used to do basic  
> multitrack mixing. after having sorted out a few issues this  
> prototype will be actually released (though a few other issues will  
> still remain, until we get into another phase of development). But i  
> can send you a copy off list.
> best,
> Jan
>
> On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Alan Yoder wrote:
>
>> Quite some time ago I read an article about a sound editor designed  
>> in SC that was specifically designed for the blind user.
>> Unfortunately I forget where this article is and who the developer  
>> is.
>> I'd like to get in touch with them to see if I could get a copy of  
>> this editor, I'd be willing to provide feedback of course as  
>> another blind user.
>> If there's any other blind SC users about I'd like to speak with  
>> them as well for any tips and ideas they might have.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
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[Fredrik Olofsson]

hello Alan,
Mario Lang used to be on this list (and also the sc-dev list).  he  
wrote the EmacsWidget classes which you might want to try out.  you  
can find his posts in the archives.

and here is some old code i had laying around.  perhaps you will find  
it useful.  if you press the escape key, it will look through the  
post window and the speak the last error posted.  if you press alt
+escape it will speak the last warning posted.  only tested on osx  
and might not work on other platforms.  put it in your startup.rtf  
file and recompile.

//--begin sc code:

//find last posted error.  esc to speak last error, alt+esc to speak  
last warning.
(
Document.globalKeyDownAction_{|doc, key, mod, code|
        var d, i;
        if(code==27, { //esc
                d= Document.listener.string;
                if(mod&524288==524288, { //esc+alt
                        i= d.findBackwards("WARNING:");
                        if(i.notNil, {
                                ("warning"+(d.copyRange(i, i+200).split($\r)[1])).speak;
                        });
                }, { //plain esc
                        i= d.findBackwards("ERROR:");
                        if(i.notNil, {
                                d.copyRange(i, i+100).split($\r)[0].speak;
                        });
                });
                ""
        });
}
)

//--test
OOO.new
1.asd
1\2
11
s.quit
{SinOsc.ar}.play //warns about localhost not running


//--end sc code


1 jul 2008 kl. 16.40 skrev Julio d'Escrivan:

> Hi Alan,
>
> Just to say hello, and that it would be good to network with you so  
> you can give us feedback on the app as we are hoping to develop an  
> extensive project on this... Let's email off list !
>
> best !
> Julio
>
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2008, at 02:54, Jan Trutzschler wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan,
>> yes, we designed a prototype, which can be used to do basic  
>> multitrack mixing. after having sorted out a few issues this  
>> prototype will be actually released (though a few other issues  
>> will still remain, until we get into another phase of  
>> development). But i can send you a copy off list.
>> best,
>> Jan
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Alan Yoder wrote:
>>
>>> Quite some time ago I read an article about a sound editor  
>>> designed in SC that was specifically designed for the blind user.
>>> Unfortunately I forget where this article is and who the  
>>> developer is.
>>> I'd like to get in touch with them to see if I could get a copy  
>>> of this editor, I'd be willing to provide feedback of course as  
>>> another blind user.
>>> If there's any other blind SC users about I'd like to speak with  
>>> them as well for any tips and ideas they might have.
>>> Thanks.

   #|
      fredrikolofsson.com     klippav.org     musicalfieldsforever.com
   |#


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