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Christopher Karper

Reply Threaded

I'm trying to update my MMC Snap In installer to automatically pull version
info from the managed snap-in dll. I've used the variable
"!(bind.assemblyFullName.SampleSnapIn.dll)" to get the fullname, but in
Orca, it has the actual binder variable text in the registry table, instead
of the replaced value I'm looking for.

I followed
http://blogs.msdn.com/heaths/archive/2008/02/08/get-binder-variables-for-assemblies-without-installing-into-the-gac.aspxas
my assembly is not GACed. I also read through the previous threads in
the group about binder variables, and Ias a result, I've added the -fv
switch to the "Linker" box (for light, for non Votive users)...

Still no dice. Is there something I'm missing? Shouldn't this be working
as I have it?

Chris

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Rob Mensching-2

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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More likely than not, your "FileId" is wrong. A bug is open on the fact that the binder doesn't fail when it hits an unknown binder variable.

-----Original Message-----
From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:50
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive

I'm trying to update my MMC Snap In installer to automatically pull version
info from the managed snap-in dll. I've used the variable
"!(bind.assemblyFullName.SampleSnapIn.dll)" to get the fullname, but in
Orca, it has the actual binder variable text in the registry table, instead
of the replaced value I'm looking for.

I followed
http://blogs.msdn.com/heaths/archive/2008/02/08/get-binder-variables-for-assemblies-without-installing-into-the-gac.aspxas
my assembly is not GACed. I also read through the previous threads in
the group about binder variables, and Ias a result, I've added the -fv
switch to the "Linker" box (for light, for non Votive users)...

Still no dice. Is there something I'm missing? Shouldn't this be working
as I have it?

Chris

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Christopher Karper

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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I copied the FileId from the File's ID into the binder variable. Then I
double checked the spelling, then I triple checked it. That was my first
big theory.
Just to help out, here's the pertinent pieces...

<Component Id="VisibilitySnapIn.dll"
Guid="{B813CED8-CDA2-44CC-B809-116A987789F9}">
<File Id="VisibilitySnapIn.dll" KeyPath="yes" Source="$(var.Visibility
Monitor MMC SnapIn.TargetDir)VisibilitySnapIn.dll" Assembly=".net"
AssemblyApplication="VisibilitySnapIn.dll" />
</Component>

<RegistryValue Root="HKLM"
Key="SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MMC\SnapIns\FX:{244B7462-C89A-427e-8D1B-CF4E37878699}"
Name="Type" Value="VisibilitySnapIn.VisibilitySnapIn,
!(bind.assemblyFullName.VisibilitySnapIn.dll)" Type="string" Action="write"
/>

Any ideas?

Chris

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rob Mensching <Rob.Mensching@...>
wrote:

> More likely than not, your "FileId" is wrong. A bug is open on the fact
> that the binder doesn't fail when it hits an unknown binder variable.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:
> wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:50
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive
>
> I'm trying to update my MMC Snap In installer to automatically pull version
> info from the managed snap-in dll. I've used the variable
> "!(bind.assemblyFullName.SampleSnapIn.dll)" to get the fullname, but in
> Orca, it has the actual binder variable text in the registry table, instead
> of the replaced value I'm looking for.
>
> I followed
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/heaths/archive/2008/02/08/get-binder-variables-for-assemblies-without-installing-into-the-gac.aspxas
> my assembly is not GACed. I also read through the previous threads in
> the group about binder variables, and Ias a result, I've added the -fv
> switch to the "Linker" box (for light, for non Votive users)...
>
> Still no dice. Is there something I'm missing? Shouldn't this be working
> as I have it?
>
> Chris
>
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Rob Mensching-2

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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Nothing off the top of my head... I'd have to debug this to get to the root of it.

-----Original Message-----
From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 14:12
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive

I copied the FileId from the File's ID into the binder variable. Then I
double checked the spelling, then I triple checked it. That was my first
big theory.
Just to help out, here's the pertinent pieces...

<Component Id="VisibilitySnapIn.dll"
Guid="{B813CED8-CDA2-44CC-B809-116A987789F9}">
<File Id="VisibilitySnapIn.dll" KeyPath="yes" Source="$(var.Visibility
Monitor MMC SnapIn.TargetDir)VisibilitySnapIn.dll" Assembly=".net"
AssemblyApplication="VisibilitySnapIn.dll" />
</Component>

<RegistryValue Root="HKLM"
Key="SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MMC\SnapIns\FX:{244B7462-C89A-427e-8D1B-CF4E37878699}"
Name="Type" Value="VisibilitySnapIn.VisibilitySnapIn,
!(bind.assemblyFullName.VisibilitySnapIn.dll)" Type="string" Action="write"
/>

Any ideas?

Chris

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Christopher Karper

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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I still can't get any of these binder variables to work. Does anyone have
some time to take a look at it? Thanks in advance. :-D

Chris

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Rob Mensching
<Rob.Mensching@...>wrote:

> Nothing off the top of my head... I'd have to debug this to get to the root
> of it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:
> wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 14:12
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive
>
> I copied the FileId from the File's ID into the binder variable. Then I
> double checked the spelling, then I triple checked it. That was my first
> big theory.
> Just to help out, here's the pertinent pieces...
>
> <Component Id="VisibilitySnapIn.dll"
> Guid="{B813CED8-CDA2-44CC-B809-116A987789F9}">
> <File Id="VisibilitySnapIn.dll" KeyPath="yes" Source="$(var.Visibility
> Monitor MMC SnapIn.TargetDir)VisibilitySnapIn.dll" Assembly=".net"
> AssemblyApplication="VisibilitySnapIn.dll" />
> </Component>
>
> <RegistryValue Root="HKLM"
>
> Key="SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MMC\SnapIns\FX:{244B7462-C89A-427e-8D1B-CF4E37878699}"
> Name="Type" Value="VisibilitySnapIn.VisibilitySnapIn,
> !(bind.assemblyFullName.VisibilitySnapIn.dll)" Type="string" Action="write"
> />
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rob Mensching <
> Rob.Mensching@...>
> wrote:
>
> > More likely than not, your "FileId" is wrong. A bug is open on the fact
> > that the binder doesn't fail when it hits an unknown binder variable.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:
> > wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:50
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive
> >
> > I'm trying to update my MMC Snap In installer to automatically pull
> version
> > info from the managed snap-in dll. I've used the variable
> > "!(bind.assemblyFullName.SampleSnapIn.dll)" to get the fullname, but in
> > Orca, it has the actual binder variable text in the registry table,
> instead
> > of the replaced value I'm looking for.
> >
> > I followed
> >
> >
> http://blogs.msdn.com/heaths/archive/2008/02/08/get-binder-variables-for-assemblies-without-installing-into-the-gac.aspxas
> > my assembly is not GACed. I also read through the previous threads in
> > the group about binder variables, and Ias a result, I've added the -fv
> > switch to the "Linker" box (for light, for non Votive users)...
> >
> > Still no dice. Is there something I'm missing? Shouldn't this be
> working
> > as I have it?
> >
> > Chris
> >
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Bob Arnson-6

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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Christopher Karper wrote:
> I still can't get any of these binder variables to work. Does anyone have
> some time to take a look at it? Thanks in advance. :-D
>

Two random things to try:

1. Rename the File/@Id so it doesn't have a dot in it. (The RegEx looks
right, but...)
2. Try putting the assembly in the GAC, just to see if that's enough.

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Christopher Karper

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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Neither of these worked. I don't understand why *none* of the binder
variables are working. I tried this for my x86 and x64 configs to make sure
it wasn't a platform issue. I get the same issue either way though.

Thanks for the ideas.

Chris

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Bob Arnson <bob@...> wrote:

> Christopher Karper wrote:
> > I still can't get any of these binder variables to work. Does anyone
> have
> > some time to take a look at it? Thanks in advance. :-D
> >
>
> Two random things to try:
>
> 1. Rename the File/@Id so it doesn't have a dot in it. (The RegEx looks
> right, but...)
> 2. Try putting the assembly in the GAC, just to see if that's enough.
>
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Rob Mensching-2

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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What version of the WiX toolset?

-----Original Message-----
From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:16
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive

Neither of these worked. I don't understand why *none* of the binder
variables are working. I tried this for my x86 and x64 configs to make sure
it wasn't a platform issue. I get the same issue either way though.

Thanks for the ideas.

Chris

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Bob Arnson <bob@...> wrote:

Christopher Karper

Re: Binder variables from Votive

Reply Threaded

3.0.4325

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Rob Mensching
<Rob.Mensching@...>wrote:

> What version of the WiX toolset?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:
> wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:16
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive
>
> Neither of these worked. I don't understand why *none* of the binder
> variables are working. I tried this for my x86 and x64 configs to make
> sure
> it wasn't a platform issue. I get the same issue either way though.
>
> Thanks for the ideas.
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Bob Arnson <bob@...> wrote:
>
> > Christopher Karper wrote:
> > > I still can't get any of these binder variables to work. Does anyone
> > have
> > > some time to take a look at it? Thanks in advance. :-D
> > >
> >
> > Two random things to try:
> >
> > 1. Rename the File/@Id so it doesn't have a dot in it. (The RegEx looks
> > right, but...)
> > 2. Try putting the assembly in the GAC, just to see if that's enough.
> >
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Rob Mensching-2

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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Well, there goes that theory. Here is what I have and it is working:

<Product Id="$(var.PRODUCT_CODE)"
Name="My Product"
Language="1033"
Manufacturer="Microsoft Corporation"
UpgradeCode="$(var.UPGRADE_CODE)"
Version="!(bind.FileVersion.foo.exe)">

Can you verify whether that works for you?

-----Original Message-----
From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:02
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive

3.0.4325

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Rob Mensching
<Rob.Mensching@...>wrote:

Christopher Karper

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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Breakthrough!!!

It's a merge module, and the file id needs the GUID put in to work. I
wouldn't think that was how it's *supposed* to work, but adding the package
guid to the file id in the binder variable makes it work...

Chris

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Rob Mensching
<Rob.Mensching@...>wrote:

> Well, there goes that theory. Here is what I have and it is working:
>
> <Product Id="$(var.PRODUCT_CODE)"
> Name="My Product"
> Language="1033"
> Manufacturer="Microsoft Corporation"
> UpgradeCode="$(var.UPGRADE_CODE)"
> Version="!(bind.FileVersion.foo.exe)">
>
> Can you verify whether that works for you?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:
> wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:02
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive
>
> 3.0.4325
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Rob Mensching
> <Rob.Mensching@...>wrote:
>
> > What version of the WiX toolset?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wix-users-bounces@... [mailto:
> > wix-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Karper
> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:16
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Binder variables from Votive
> >
> > Neither of these worked. I don't understand why *none* of the binder
> > variables are working. I tried this for my x86 and x64 configs to make
> > sure
> > it wasn't a platform issue. I get the same issue either way though.
> >
> > Thanks for the ideas.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Bob Arnson <bob@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Christopher Karper wrote:
> > > > I still can't get any of these binder variables to work. Does anyone
> > > have
> > > > some time to take a look at it? Thanks in advance. :-D
> > > >
> > >
> > > Two random things to try:
> > >
> > > 1. Rename the File/@Id so it doesn't have a dot in it. (The RegEx looks
> > > right, but...)
> > > 2. Try putting the assembly in the GAC, just to see if that's enough.
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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Bob Arnson-6

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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Christopher Karper wrote:
> It's a merge module, and the file id needs the GUID put in to work. I
> wouldn't think that was how it's *supposed* to work, but adding the package
> guid to the file id in the binder variable makes it work...
>

Is the !(bind...) in the merge module itself or are you referring to it
from another product/merge module?

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Christopher Karper

Re: Binder variables from Votive

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It's in the merge module itself. I would have expected it to get
modularized like all of my other file/component references, but alas,
alack... it was not to be.

Chris

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Bob Arnson <bob@...> wrote:

> Christopher Karper wrote:
> > It's a merge module, and the file id needs the GUID put in to work. I
> > wouldn't think that was how it's *supposed* to work, but adding the
> package
> > guid to the file id in the binder variable makes it work...
> >
>
> Is the !(bind...) in the merge module itself or are you referring to it
> from another product/merge module?
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Re: Binder variables from Votive

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