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	Audiere, Vista / VBR by Jens Bergensten :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Hello again Thanks for the responses on my Vista problem. Upgrading to the lastest version did wonders... ... however, the new version is all funky with mp3s. I did some testing and discovered that it wouldn't play songs with variable bitrate (VBR). Since the latest version now supports seeking in mp3s, I figured that it may have collided with VBRs. My question is thus, is it possible to disable the seek functionality, or is there another way around the problem (except re-recording our songs without VBR)? Sincerely, Jens Bergensten ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users
	Re: Audiere, Vista / VBR by Chad Austin :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I don't know anything about that, but what I'd do is find a small VBR example, a small WAV example, and write a failing automated test and check it into SVN. And then we can fix it. And do the same with the existing formats we support. On 4/19/07, Jens Bergensten <jensbergensten@...> wrote: > Hello again > > Thanks for the responses on my Vista problem. Upgrading to the lastest > version did wonders... > > ... however, the new version is all funky with mp3s. I did some testing and > discovered that it wouldn't play songs with variable bitrate (VBR). Since > the latest version now supports seeking in mp3s, I figured that it may have > collided with VBRs. My question is thus, is it possible to disable the seek > functionality, or is there another way around the problem (except > re-recording our songs without VBR)? > > Sincerely, > Jens Bergensten > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Audiere-users mailing list > Audiere-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users > > -- Chad Austin http://imvu.com/technology ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users
	Re: Audiere, Vista / VBR by Jens Bergensten :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Thanks for the response. I am not sure how to add stuff to the SVN, so I have just uploaded two small MP3s that you can try with. Open them in the wxplayer that is included with the audiere release. The one named _cbr (constant bit rate) works perfectly, while the one named _vbr can't be opened (they sound the same in winamp, though). http://www.oxeye.se/files/audiere/mus_defeat_cbr.mp3 http://www.oxeye.se/files/audiere/mus_defeat_vbr.mp3 We have decided to simply convert our songs to constant bit rate format for now, so no worries. Sincerely, Jens Bergensten On 4/20/07, Chad Austin <aegis@...> wrote: I don't know anything about that, but what I'd do is find a small VBR example, a small WAV example, and write a failing automated test and check it into SVN. And then we can fix it. And do the same with the existing formats we support. On 4/19/07, Jens Bergensten <jensbergensten@...> wrote: > Hello again > > Thanks for the responses on my Vista problem. Upgrading to the lastest > version did wonders... > > ... however, the new version is all funky with mp3s. I did some testing and > discovered that it wouldn't play songs with variable bitrate (VBR). Since > the latest version now supports seeking in mp3s, I figured that it may have > collided with VBRs. My question is thus, is it possible to disable the seek > functionality, or is there another way around the problem (except > re-recording our songs without VBR)? > > Sincerely, > Jens Bergensten > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Audiere-users mailing list > Audiere-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users > > -- Chad Austin http://imvu.com/technology ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users
	Re: Audiere, Vista / VBR by Matt Campbell-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Jens Bergensten wrote: > We have decided to simply convert our songs to constant bit rate format > for now, so no worries. Have you considered using Ogg Vorbis instead? It is a far superior format to MP3. Vorbis is by default a variable-bit-rate format, and a Vorbis stream with an average bit rate of about 112 Kbps is roughly equivalent in quality to a 160 Kbps MP3. So I highly recommend Vorbis for audio that you distribute with your game. -- Matt Campbell Lead Programmer Serotek Corporation www.freedombox.info "The Accessibility Anywhere People" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users
	Re: Audiere, Vista / VBR by Enno Rehling :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Matt Campbell wrote: > Have you considered using Ogg Vorbis instead? It is a far superior > format to MP3. Vorbis is by default a variable-bit-rate format, and a > Vorbis stream with an average bit rate of about 112 Kbps is roughly > equivalent in quality to a 160 Kbps MP3. So I highly recommend Vorbis > for audio that you distribute with your game. I second that. For The Longest Journey, it was almost an easy choice. Given that we have a lot of speech, I would have preferred Ogg Speex, but back then Audiere didn't support it, and now it's too late, the data is all converted and shipped :-) Also, with Vorbis you're not going to have to pay the license cost for MP3 when you want to distribute your final product. Enno. -- As a PC gamer, you need to respect yourself. Part of that respect is making sure that your clock speed isn't /one third/ of the Goddamn processors out now. - Tycho ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users
	Re: Audiere, Vista / VBR by Jens Bergensten :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Yes, both of your comments are very true. Our problem at the moment is that our Mac OS X port doesn't support ogg. We would have to either use different music files for the different releases, or attempt to implement ogg in the Mac version somehow. I'm not responsible for the Mac port, so I don't know how difficult that is... // Jens Bergensten On 4/23/07, Enno Rehling <enno.rehling@...> wrote: Matt Campbell wrote: > Have you considered using Ogg Vorbis instead? It is a far superior > format to MP3. Vorbis is by default a variable-bit-rate format, and a > Vorbis stream with an average bit rate of about 112 Kbps is roughly > equivalent in quality to a 160 Kbps MP3. So I highly recommend Vorbis > for audio that you distribute with your game. I second that. For The Longest Journey, it was almost an easy choice. Given that we have a lot of speech, I would have preferred Ogg Speex, but back then Audiere didn't support it, and now it's too late, the data is all converted and shipped :-) Also, with Vorbis you're not going to have to pay the license cost for MP3 when you want to distribute your final product. Enno. -- As a PC gamer, you need to respect yourself. Part of that respect is making sure that your clock speed isn't /one third/ of the Goddamn processors out now. - Tycho ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Audiere-users mailing list Audiere-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audiere-users