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Anybody want to share on JSF?

by Calen Martin D. Legaspi :: Rate this Message:

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Any volunteers to discuss JSF?

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by Joel Realubit :: Rate this Message:

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Ah, I've only been wrapping my head around JSF (and JPA) on and off the past couple of months. And, I'm out of the country right now. I'll be happy to share some stuff after I'm home on the 20th, though. :)

Cheers!
Joel


----- Original Message ----
From: Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@...>
To: pinoyjug@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:11:14 AM
Subject: [pinoyjug] Anybody want to share on JSF?









 


   
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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by my_aro :: Rate this Message:

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a, ok. well.. Seam is a good thing to be with JSF and EJB3. Thanks to Gavin King.

Joel Realubit <joelrealubit@...> wrote:            Ah, I've only been wrapping my head around JSF (and JPA) on and off the past couple of months. And, I'm out of the country right now. I'll be happy to share some stuff after I'm home on the 20th, though. :)

Cheers!
Joel
 

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:11:14 AM
Subject: [pinoyjug] Anybody want to share on JSF?

    Any volunteers to discuss JSF?

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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by javazealot :: Rate this Message:

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So Joel will you be willing to do one session for PinoyJUG when you come
back? ;-)

On 4/11/07, Joel Realubit <joelrealubit@...> wrote:

>
>   Ah, I've only been wrapping my head around JSF (and JPA) on and off the
> past couple of months. And, I'm out of the country right now. I'll be happy
> to share some stuff after I'm home on the 20th, though. :)
>
> Cheers!
> Joel
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@...>
> To: pinoyjug@...
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:11:14 AM
> Subject: [pinoyjug] Anybody want to share on JSF?
>
>  Any volunteers to discuss JSF?
>
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> Calen Martin D. Legaspi
> Sun Certified Enterprise Architect
> CEO, Orange & Bronze Software Labs
> http://software. orangeandbronze. com
> <http://software.orangeandbronze.com>
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by Joel Realubit :: Rate this Message:

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Oh, I try to just stick with the standard JPA -- that way I can slap on any JPA-compliant ORM library underneath, whether Hibernate or Toplink for instance, and my code won't need to care about it. Same thing I guess if I were to do session bean POJO's -- if I code against the standard, I wouldn't have to care so much about what standards-compliant container I use.

----- Original Message ----
From: Jason Combras <my_aro@...>
To: pinoyjug@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:30:49 PM
Subject: Re: [pinoyjug] Anybody want to share on JSF?









 


   
            a, ok. well.. Seam is a good thing to be with JSF and EJB3. Thanks to Gavin King.

Joel Realubit <joelrealubit@ yahoo.com> wrote:  
      Ah, I've only been wrapping my head around JSF (and JPA) on and off the past couple of months. And, I'm out of the country right now. I'll be happy to share some stuff after I'm home on the 20th, though. :)

Cheers!
Joel
 

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@orangeandbron ze.com>
To: pinoyjug@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:11:14 AM
Subject: [pinoyjug] Anybody want to share on JSF?

    Any volunteers to discuss JSF?

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CEO, Orange & Bronze Software Labs
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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by Miguel Paraz :: Rate this Message:

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On 4/11/07, Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@...> wrote:
> Any volunteers to discuss JSF?

If you do JSF, Oracle wants you! They are THE corporate sponsor of JSF
and make it the standard presentation layer for their Web UI. Job
repost:

From: Orlando Andico <orly.andico@...>
Date: Feb 5, 2007 4:12 PM

The company I work for is "The Largest Enterprise Software Company."

We have two long-standing requirements that I'm sure many of the
readers of this list can fill:

1) FMW (Fusion Middleware) Sales Consultant

- you must be familiar with J2EE application server environment, at
least one of IBM Websphere, BEA Weblogic, JBoss, or ideally Oracle
Application Server

- familiarity with SOA, web services, Enterprise Service Bus, JMS

...

Benefits of course are variable, but my employer:

- does NOT provide a car plan
- does NOT provide parking
- does NOT provide scholarships

However there are some useful benefits which were a revelation for me,
coming from a smaller company

- life insurance when you join (even if not yet regularized): equal to
24 month's gross salary, so if by the worst of luck you die on your
first day of work, your family will be taken care of for at least a
couple years

- 500K limit HMO for you and your immediate family

-  you can retire after 5 years on the job, your retirement benefit
will be 1 month salary per year served, multiplied by a factor (0.5
for 5 years, 0.6 for 6 years, etc...)

- work for Bill's Biggest Nemesis! Linux is religion around here!

:)

Please contact grace.punzalan@... with your resume. You could
mention that you got the lead from me (there is a small reward for me
if you get hired...)

Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by Steve Torrefranca :: Rate this Message:

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whenever ppl ask me the benefits of JSF, I always show them irian's site:
http://www.irian.at/myfaces.jsf;jsessionid=561C4234F717CA804006C4A1312F14BE

the samples you see here are built using MyFaces Tomahawk.  On the same page
you will also see Tomahawk Sandbox (experimental components that will be
included in future releases of Tomahawk). Currently Sandbox has ajax
components though not as mature as icefaces (
http://component-showcase.icefaces.org/component-showcase/).  IceFaces is
now a part of SEAM.

Speaking of Oracle, they have a nice implementation of JSF too (
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/htdocs/partners/addins/exchange/jsf/index.html)
but unfortunately I am happy with Tomahawk-IceFaces combo and never had the
chance to use it.

Then you have the underdogs, yet very extensive and professional, Tobago and
Trinidad (open source donation of Oracle's ADF) but likely will become more
popular than Tomahawk.

JSF, despite some short-comings,  is a very flexible and powerful framework.

Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by Paolo Enrico Melendres :: Rate this Message:

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hello steve!

thanks for the links.  i am very interested in your experience in
using jsf with other frameworks.

could you share with us how you integrated tomahawk + icefaces with
the other frameworks you used (like spring or hibernate)?

thanks!


paolo

--- In pinoyjug@..., "Steve Torrefranca" <javacide@...> wrote:
>
> whenever ppl ask me the benefits of JSF, I always show them irian's
site:
>
http://www.irian.at/myfaces.jsf;jsessionid=561C4234F717CA804006C4A1312F14BE
>
> the samples you see here are built using MyFaces Tomahawk.  On the
same page
> you will also see Tomahawk Sandbox (experimental components that will be
> included in future releases of Tomahawk). Currently Sandbox has ajax
> components though not as mature as icefaces (
> http://component-showcase.icefaces.org/component-showcase/).
IceFaces is
> now a part of SEAM.
>
> Speaking of Oracle, they have a nice implementation of JSF too (
>
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/htdocs/partners/addins/exchange/jsf/index.html)
> but unfortunately I am happy with Tomahawk-IceFaces combo and never
had the
> chance to use it.
>
> Then you have the underdogs, yet very extensive and professional,
Tobago and
> Trinidad (open source donation of Oracle's ADF) but likely will
become more
> popular than Tomahawk.
>
> JSF, despite some short-comings,  is a very flexible and powerful
framework.
>



Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by Steve Torrefranca :: Rate this Message:

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icefaces+tomahawk (some serious limitations):  tomahawk components are not
part of JSF standard.  Therefore expect that you will experience problems if
you use it with icefaces, SEAM, etc.

components (tomahawk,tobago,etc) only works with renderers provided by
icefaces.  having said that, not all tomahawk components work with
icefaces.  as a matter of fact, ajax4jsf integrates way better than icefaces
(http://labs.jboss.com/portal/jbossajax4jsf). but it is just a matter of
time when  Ajax integration becomes a standard (JSF 2.0) and by that time,
icefaces and tomahawk should integrate gracefully.  To answer your question,
i do it using frames.  I only use IceFaces for its chart components
anyways.  Tomahawk and sandbox on the other hand is such a great library!

ppl dont recommend mixing SEAM or IceFaces with tomahawk - but there is
always a work around! Mind you Trinidad/Tobago don't play well with Tomahawk
and all are Apache MyFaces Components

Spring+Hibernate+MyFaces:
This Wiki provides tutorial on how to bind them together

aaaaa the joys of being a java developer!

Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by Steve Torrefranca :: Rate this Message:

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the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/

On 4/11/07, Steve Torrefranca <javacide@...> wrote:

> icefaces+tomahawk (some serious limitations):  tomahawk components are not
> part of JSF standard.  Therefore expect that you will experience problems if
> you use it with icefaces, SEAM, etc.
>
> components (tomahawk,tobago,etc) only works with renderers provided by
> icefaces.  having said that, not all tomahawk components work with icefaces.
>  as a matter of fact, ajax4jsf integrates way better than icefaces (
> http://labs.jboss.com/portal/jbossajax4jsf). but it is just
> a matter of time when  Ajax integration becomes a standard (JSF 2.0) and by
> that time, icefaces and tomahawk should integrate gracefully.  To answer
> your question, i do it using frames.  I only use IceFaces for its chart
> components anyways.  Tomahawk and sandbox on the other hand is such a great
> library!
>
> ppl dont recommend mixing SEAM or IceFaces with tomahawk - but there is
> always a work around! Mind you Trinidad/Tobago don't play well with Tomahawk
> and all are Apache MyFaces Components
>
> Spring+Hibernate+MyFaces:
> This Wiki provides tutorial on how to bind them together
>
> aaaaa the joys of being a java developer!
>
>
>
>

Grails

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I just want to share this one

http://grails.codehaus.org/

According to site:

It's an open-source web application framework that leverages     the Groovy   language     and complements Java Web development.

It actually uses Spring, Hibernate and Quartz. I've been digging it for almost two weeks now and I find it very useful specially for building CRUD apps.


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Re: Grails

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Has anyone used Grails for production apps? How is it?


On 4/12/07, Marc Lester Tan <mharkus@...> wrote:

>
>   I just want to share this one
>
> http://grails.codehaus.org/
>
> According to site:
>
> It's an open-source web application framework that leverages the Groovy
> language <http://groovy.codehaus.org/> and complements Java Web
> development.
>
> It actually uses Spring, Hibernate and Quartz. I've been digging it for
> almost two weeks now and I find it very useful specially for building CRUD
> apps.
>
> **
> Thanks,
> Marc
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Re: Grails

by Paolo Enrico Melendres :: Rate this Message:

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hmmm i'd hesitate to use grails right now in production.  the latest release is version 0.4.2

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GRAILS/2007/02/23/Grails+0.4.2+Released

--- In pinoyjug@..., "Melvin Dave Vivas" <melvindave@...>
wrote:
>
> Has anyone used Grails for production apps? How is it?



Re: Re: Grails

by Miguel Paraz :: Rate this Message:

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On 4/12/07, Paolo Enrico Melendres <pamelendres@...> wrote:
> hmmm i'd hesitate to use grails right now in production.  the latest release is version 0.4.2

Plus, Groovy isn't a "serious" language... looks like a hobby of James
Strachan? (Who has since moved on.)

Now the real deal, JRuby, is nearing the native Ruby in features. It
can almost run Rails:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JRUBY/2007/03/05

There is an effort for the JVM-based Rails to run on a regular appserver.

Re: Grails

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I'm planning  to use it in an sms-messaging application so let's see if it goes well. :D

Marc

Melvin Dave Vivas <melvindave@...> wrote:                                  Has anyone used Grails for production apps? How is it?



On 4/12/07, Marc Lester Tan <mharkus@...> wrote:                                    I just want to share this one

http://grails.codehaus.org/

According to site:

It's an open-source web application framework that leverages      the Groovy   language     and complements Java Web development.

It actually uses Spring, Hibernate and Quartz. I've been digging it for almost two weeks now and I find it very useful specially for building CRUD apps.


Thanks,
Marc

           

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Re: Re: Grails

by Jay Quiambao :: Rate this Message:

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Just 2 months ago I heard a podcast interview of the JRuby guys  
saying JRuby is 20 to 50 times slower than Ruby. Looks like they're  
catching up to speed and making great progress.

Actually, Groovy is not just a hobby per se,  well probably not since  
2004 that is. It's on the JCP (JSR 241) to become THE standard Java  
scripting language.

I don't really prefer either one of these languages since I've only  
read about them and never written a single line of code with them.  
It's just fascinating to see all these languages (Scala, Jython,  
JRuby, Groovy, etc.) popping out of nowhere and running on the JVM. A  
testament to how great the Java platform truly is.

On 04 12, 07, at 7:00 PM, Miguel Paraz wrote:

> On 4/12/07, Paolo Enrico Melendres <pamelendres@...> wrote:
>> hmmm i'd hesitate to use grails right now in production.  the  
>> latest release is version 0.4.2
>
> Plus, Groovy isn't a "serious" language... looks like a hobby of James
> Strachan? (Who has since moved on.)
>
> Now the real deal, JRuby, is nearing the native Ruby in features. It
> can almost run Rails:
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JRUBY/2007/03/05
>
> There is an effort for the JVM-based Rails to run on a regular  
> appserver.
>
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Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by jojopaderes :: Rate this Message:

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Found this JSF matrix: http://www.jsfmatrix.net . Looks like IceFaces
has the most green icons compared to other JSF implementations.

I heard Backbase JSF is a good choice also
(http://www.backbase.com/#home/products/editions/jsf_edition.xml[1]).
Anybody here who has used Backbase?



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Re: Re: Grails

by jojopaderes :: Rate this Message:

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And there are great expectations on the upcoming 1.0 release of JRuby

http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/04/great-expectations-jruby

"Since the release of JRuby 0.9.8 about a month ago, information about
JRuby progress has been a little hard to find. But the latest news out
of the JRuby camp leaves us no doubt that it is because the team is
working harder than ever in order to deliver JRuby 1.0 before
JavaOne."

On 4/12/07, Miguel Paraz <mparaz@...> wrote:
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>  Plus, Groovy isn't a "serious" language... looks like a hobby of James
>  Strachan? (Who has since moved on.)
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>  Now the real deal, JRuby, is nearing the native Ruby in features. It
>  can almost run Rails:
>  http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JRUBY/2007/03/05
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>  There is an effort for the JVM-based Rails to run on a regular appserver.

Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?

by jmalonzo