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Anybody want to share on JSF?Any volunteers to discuss JSF?
-- Calen Martin D. Legaspi Sun Certified Enterprise Architect CEO, Orange & Bronze Software Labs http://software.orangeandbronze.com http://calenlegaspi.blogspot.com +63 2 8943415 or +63 2 7514726 |
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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?a, ok. well.. Seam is a good thing to be with JSF and EJB3. Thanks to Gavin King.
Joel Realubit <joelrealubit@...> wrote: Ah, I've only been wrapping my head around JSF (and JPA) on and off the past couple of months. And, I'm out of the country right now. I'll be happy to share some stuff after I'm home on the 20th, though. :) Cheers! Joel ----- Original Message ---- From: Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@...> To: pinoyjug@... Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:11:14 AM Subject: [pinoyjug] Anybody want to share on JSF? Any volunteers to discuss JSF? -- Calen Martin D. Legaspi Sun Certified Enterprise Architect CEO, Orange & Bronze Software Labs http://software. orangeandbronze. com http://calenlegaspi .blogspot. com +63 2 8943415 or +63 2 7514726 --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink Q&A. Jason U. Combras Java Developer SWB - Consulting 350 Townsend Street, Suite 422 San Francisco, CA 94107 USA Office : +1 212 801 3892 --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. |
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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?So Joel will you be willing to do one session for PinoyJUG when you come
back? ;-) On 4/11/07, Joel Realubit <joelrealubit@...> wrote: > > Ah, I've only been wrapping my head around JSF (and JPA) on and off the > past couple of months. And, I'm out of the country right now. I'll be happy > to share some stuff after I'm home on the 20th, though. :) > > Cheers! > Joel > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@...> > To: pinoyjug@... > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:11:14 AM > Subject: [pinoyjug] Anybody want to share on JSF? > > Any volunteers to discuss JSF? > > -- > Calen Martin D. Legaspi > Sun Certified Enterprise Architect > CEO, Orange & Bronze Software Labs > http://software. orangeandbronze. com > <http://software.orangeandbronze.com> > http://calenlegaspi .blogspot. com <http://calenlegaspi.blogspot.com> > +63 2 8943415 or +63 2 7514726 > > > ------------------------------ > Food fight?<http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx?link=ask&sid=396545367>Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink Q&A.<http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx?link=ask&sid=396545367> > > > |
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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?On 4/11/07, Calen Martin D. Legaspi <calen@...> wrote:
> Any volunteers to discuss JSF? If you do JSF, Oracle wants you! They are THE corporate sponsor of JSF and make it the standard presentation layer for their Web UI. Job repost: From: Orlando Andico <orly.andico@...> Date: Feb 5, 2007 4:12 PM The company I work for is "The Largest Enterprise Software Company." We have two long-standing requirements that I'm sure many of the readers of this list can fill: 1) FMW (Fusion Middleware) Sales Consultant - you must be familiar with J2EE application server environment, at least one of IBM Websphere, BEA Weblogic, JBoss, or ideally Oracle Application Server - familiarity with SOA, web services, Enterprise Service Bus, JMS ... Benefits of course are variable, but my employer: - does NOT provide a car plan - does NOT provide parking - does NOT provide scholarships However there are some useful benefits which were a revelation for me, coming from a smaller company - life insurance when you join (even if not yet regularized): equal to 24 month's gross salary, so if by the worst of luck you die on your first day of work, your family will be taken care of for at least a couple years - 500K limit HMO for you and your immediate family - you can retire after 5 years on the job, your retirement benefit will be 1 month salary per year served, multiplied by a factor (0.5 for 5 years, 0.6 for 6 years, etc...) - work for Bill's Biggest Nemesis! Linux is religion around here! :) Please contact grace.punzalan@... with your resume. You could mention that you got the lead from me (there is a small reward for me if you get hired...) |
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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?whenever ppl ask me the benefits of JSF, I always show them irian's site:
http://www.irian.at/myfaces.jsf;jsessionid=561C4234F717CA804006C4A1312F14BE the samples you see here are built using MyFaces Tomahawk. On the same page you will also see Tomahawk Sandbox (experimental components that will be included in future releases of Tomahawk). Currently Sandbox has ajax components though not as mature as icefaces ( http://component-showcase.icefaces.org/component-showcase/). IceFaces is now a part of SEAM. Speaking of Oracle, they have a nice implementation of JSF too ( http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/htdocs/partners/addins/exchange/jsf/index.html) but unfortunately I am happy with Tomahawk-IceFaces combo and never had the chance to use it. Then you have the underdogs, yet very extensive and professional, Tobago and Trinidad (open source donation of Oracle's ADF) but likely will become more popular than Tomahawk. JSF, despite some short-comings, is a very flexible and powerful framework. |
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Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?hello steve!
thanks for the links. i am very interested in your experience in using jsf with other frameworks. could you share with us how you integrated tomahawk + icefaces with the other frameworks you used (like spring or hibernate)? thanks! paolo --- In pinoyjug@..., "Steve Torrefranca" <javacide@...> wrote: > > whenever ppl ask me the benefits of JSF, I always show them irian's site: > http://www.irian.at/myfaces.jsf;jsessionid=561C4234F717CA804006C4A1312F14BE > > the samples you see here are built using MyFaces Tomahawk. On the same page > you will also see Tomahawk Sandbox (experimental components that will be > included in future releases of Tomahawk). Currently Sandbox has ajax > components though not as mature as icefaces ( > http://component-showcase.icefaces.org/component-showcase/). IceFaces is > now a part of SEAM. > > Speaking of Oracle, they have a nice implementation of JSF too ( > http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/htdocs/partners/addins/exchange/jsf/index.html) > but unfortunately I am happy with Tomahawk-IceFaces combo and never had the > chance to use it. > > Then you have the underdogs, yet very extensive and professional, Tobago and > Trinidad (open source donation of Oracle's ADF) but likely will become more > popular than Tomahawk. > > JSF, despite some short-comings, is a very flexible and powerful framework. > |
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Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?icefaces+tomahawk (some serious limitations): tomahawk components are not
part of JSF standard. Therefore expect that you will experience problems if you use it with icefaces, SEAM, etc. components (tomahawk,tobago,etc) only works with renderers provided by icefaces. having said that, not all tomahawk components work with icefaces. as a matter of fact, ajax4jsf integrates way better than icefaces (http://labs.jboss.com/portal/jbossajax4jsf). but it is just a matter of time when Ajax integration becomes a standard (JSF 2.0) and by that time, icefaces and tomahawk should integrate gracefully. To answer your question, i do it using frames. I only use IceFaces for its chart components anyways. Tomahawk and sandbox on the other hand is such a great library! ppl dont recommend mixing SEAM or IceFaces with tomahawk - but there is always a work around! Mind you Trinidad/Tobago don't play well with Tomahawk and all are Apache MyFaces Components Spring+Hibernate+MyFaces: This Wiki provides tutorial on how to bind them together aaaaa the joys of being a java developer! |
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Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/
On 4/11/07, Steve Torrefranca <javacide@...> wrote: > icefaces+tomahawk (some serious limitations): tomahawk components are not > part of JSF standard. Therefore expect that you will experience problems if > you use it with icefaces, SEAM, etc. > > components (tomahawk,tobago,etc) only works with renderers provided by > icefaces. having said that, not all tomahawk components work with icefaces. > as a matter of fact, ajax4jsf integrates way better than icefaces ( > http://labs.jboss.com/portal/jbossajax4jsf). but it is just > a matter of time when Ajax integration becomes a standard (JSF 2.0) and by > that time, icefaces and tomahawk should integrate gracefully. To answer > your question, i do it using frames. I only use IceFaces for its chart > components anyways. Tomahawk and sandbox on the other hand is such a great > library! > > ppl dont recommend mixing SEAM or IceFaces with tomahawk - but there is > always a work around! Mind you Trinidad/Tobago don't play well with Tomahawk > and all are Apache MyFaces Components > > Spring+Hibernate+MyFaces: > This Wiki provides tutorial on how to bind them together > > aaaaa the joys of being a java developer! > > > > |
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GrailsI just want to share this one
http://grails.codehaus.org/ According to site: It's an open-source web application framework that leverages the Groovy language and complements Java Web development. It actually uses Spring, Hibernate and Quartz. I've been digging it for almost two weeks now and I find it very useful specially for building CRUD apps. Thanks, Marc --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. |
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Re: GrailsHas anyone used Grails for production apps? How is it?
On 4/12/07, Marc Lester Tan <mharkus@...> wrote: > > I just want to share this one > > http://grails.codehaus.org/ > > According to site: > > It's an open-source web application framework that leverages the Groovy > language <http://groovy.codehaus.org/> and complements Java Web > development. > > It actually uses Spring, Hibernate and Quartz. I've been digging it for > almost two weeks now and I find it very useful specially for building CRUD > apps. > > ** > Thanks, > Marc > > ------------------------------ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating"<http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/;_ylc=X3oDMTE4MGw4Z2hlBF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDZ3JlZW5jZW50ZXI->at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > > |
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Re: Grailshmmm i'd hesitate to use grails right now in production. the latest release is version 0.4.2
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GRAILS/2007/02/23/Grails+0.4.2+Released --- In pinoyjug@..., "Melvin Dave Vivas" <melvindave@...> wrote: > > Has anyone used Grails for production apps? How is it? |
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Re: Re: GrailsOn 4/12/07, Paolo Enrico Melendres <pamelendres@...> wrote:
> hmmm i'd hesitate to use grails right now in production. the latest release is version 0.4.2 Plus, Groovy isn't a "serious" language... looks like a hobby of James Strachan? (Who has since moved on.) Now the real deal, JRuby, is nearing the native Ruby in features. It can almost run Rails: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JRUBY/2007/03/05 There is an effort for the JVM-based Rails to run on a regular appserver. |
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Re: GrailsI'm planning to use it in an sms-messaging application so let's see if it goes well. :D
Marc Melvin Dave Vivas <melvindave@...> wrote: Has anyone used Grails for production apps? How is it? On 4/12/07, Marc Lester Tan <mharkus@...> wrote: I just want to share this one http://grails.codehaus.org/ According to site: It's an open-source web application framework that leverages the Groovy language and complements Java Web development. It actually uses Spring, Hibernate and Quartz. I've been digging it for almost two weeks now and I find it very useful specially for building CRUD apps. Thanks, Marc --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. |
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Re: Re: GrailsJust 2 months ago I heard a podcast interview of the JRuby guys
saying JRuby is 20 to 50 times slower than Ruby. Looks like they're catching up to speed and making great progress. Actually, Groovy is not just a hobby per se, well probably not since 2004 that is. It's on the JCP (JSR 241) to become THE standard Java scripting language. I don't really prefer either one of these languages since I've only read about them and never written a single line of code with them. It's just fascinating to see all these languages (Scala, Jython, JRuby, Groovy, etc.) popping out of nowhere and running on the JVM. A testament to how great the Java platform truly is. On 04 12, 07, at 7:00 PM, Miguel Paraz wrote: > On 4/12/07, Paolo Enrico Melendres <pamelendres@...> wrote: >> hmmm i'd hesitate to use grails right now in production. the >> latest release is version 0.4.2 > > Plus, Groovy isn't a "serious" language... looks like a hobby of James > Strachan? (Who has since moved on.) > > Now the real deal, JRuby, is nearing the native Ruby in features. It > can almost run Rails: > http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JRUBY/2007/03/05 > > There is an effort for the JVM-based Rails to run on a regular > appserver. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?Found this JSF matrix: http://www.jsfmatrix.net . Looks like IceFaces
has the most green icons compared to other JSF implementations. I heard Backbase JSF is a good choice also (http://www.backbase.com/#home/products/editions/jsf_edition.xml[1]). Anybody here who has used Backbase? -- "In a Linux and FOSS world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?" http://jojopaderes.blogspot.com |
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Re: Re: GrailsAnd there are great expectations on the upcoming 1.0 release of JRuby
http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/04/great-expectations-jruby "Since the release of JRuby 0.9.8 about a month ago, information about JRuby progress has been a little hard to find. But the latest news out of the JRuby camp leaves us no doubt that it is because the team is working harder than ever in order to deliver JRuby 1.0 before JavaOne." On 4/12/07, Miguel Paraz <mparaz@...> wrote: > > Plus, Groovy isn't a "serious" language... looks like a hobby of James > Strachan? (Who has since moved on.) > > Now the real deal, JRuby, is nearing the native Ruby in features. It > can almost run Rails: > http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JRUBY/2007/03/05 > > There is an effort for the JVM-based Rails to run on a regular appserver. |
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Re: Re: Anybody want to share on JSF?by jmalonzo |