Announcement: policy discussion re: interwiki links and the interwiki bot (Meta)

[Ariel T. Glenn]

Please see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki.py/Wiktionary_functionality_discussion for complete information.  The dicussion page on Meta is intended to provide a space for folks from every wiktionary project to discuss and decide upon the behavior and features of the interwiki links bot (RobotGMwikt); until now, there has been no such mechanism. Besides your participation, we also need folks who are able to help translate the dicussion on an ongoing basis as appropriate.

Thanks.

Ariel Glenn



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[Gerard Meijssen-3]

Hoi,
The discussion states that it is a policy statement and not a technical
discussion.

There are technical reasons why it is not feasible to have a consistent
implementation of a different methodology. It is imho a waste of time to
discuss what you want to change if it is technically not possible and
certainly when this is clear from the start.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 7/30/07, Ariel T. Glenn <ariel@...> wrote:

>
> Please see
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki.py/Wiktionary_functionality_discussionfor complete information.  The dicussion page on Meta is intended to provide
> a space for folks from every wiktionary project to discuss and decide upon
> the behavior and features of the interwiki links bot (RobotGMwikt); until
> now, there has been no such mechanism. Besides your participation, we also
> need folks who are able to help translate the dicussion on an ongoing basis
> as appropriate.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ariel Glenn
>
>
>
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[Andrew Dunbar]

On 30/07/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen@...> wrote:

> Hoi,
> The discussion states that it is a policy statement and not a technical
> discussion.
>
> There are technical reasons why it is not feasible to have a consistent
> implementation of a different methodology. It is imho a waste of time to
> discuss what you want to change if it is technically not possible and
> certainly when this is clear from the start.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM

So please discuss those technical reasons. To not do so would be to
waste the discussion and everybody's time. Maybe it's impossibility is
also just your opinion. Or if this impossibility has been clear from the
start please point us to a clear description of the insurmountable
problems.

Thanks.

Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail)

> On 7/30/07, Ariel T. Glenn <ariel@...> wrote:
> >
> > Please see
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki.py/Wiktionary_functionality_discussionfor complete information.  The dicussion page on Meta is intended to provide
> > a space for folks from every wiktionary project to discuss and decide upon
> > the behavior and features of the interwiki links bot (RobotGMwikt); until
> > now, there has been no such mechanism. Besides your participation, we also
> > need folks who are able to help translate the dicussion on an ongoing basis
> > as appropriate.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ariel Glenn
> >
> >
> >
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[Gerard Meijssen-3]

Hoi,
I have made my point, again, clear on the meta page.
Thanks,
    GerardM

On 7/31/07, Andrew Dunbar <hippytrail@...> wrote:

>
> On 30/07/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen@...> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > The discussion states that it is a policy statement and not a technical
> > discussion.
> >
> > There are technical reasons why it is not feasible to have a consistent
> > implementation of a different methodology. It is imho a waste of time to
> > discuss what you want to change if it is technically not possible and
> > certainly when this is clear from the start.
> > Thanks,
> >      GerardM
>
> So please discuss those technical reasons. To not do so would be to
> waste the discussion and everybody's time. Maybe it's impossibility is
> also just your opinion. Or if this impossibility has been clear from the
> start please point us to a clear description of the insurmountable
> problems.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail)
>
>
> > On 7/30/07, Ariel T. Glenn <ariel@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please see
> > >
> > >
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki.py/Wiktionary_functionality_discussionforcomplete information.  The dicussion page on Meta is intended to provide
> > > a space for folks from every wiktionary project to discuss and decide
> upon
> > > the behavior and features of the interwiki links bot (RobotGMwikt);
> until
> > > now, there has been no such mechanism. Besides your participation, we
> also
> > > need folks who are able to help translate the dicussion on an ongoing
> basis
> > > as appropriate.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Ariel Glenn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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[Muke Tever]

GerardM <gerard.meijssen@...> wrote:
> Hoi,
> I have made my point, again, clear on the meta page.

In the bit about handling redirects you say that
   >> As redirects have multiple origins, it cannot be assumed that
   >> they have a single origin.
by which you seem to argue that it is impossible that redirects can
be handled by a bot at all.  But en.wikipedia has had templates like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_from_other_capitalisation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_from_misspelling
for years, which do exactly this kind of thing: flag redirects for
categorization, etc., in ways which it is entirely feasible that a
bot could pick up on. A redirect with one flag could be treated in
one way, while another flag may be treated in another way; and there
does not have to be any action taken in treating untagged redirects.


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