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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-07-08T05:54:35Z

Oops, minor correction, PBX In a Flash is the Linux/Asterisk distro I use.
FreePBX is the web based management interface included in that distro.

Steve

Steve Prior wrote:
> have a starter kit for $50 for one channel. In my case I've got FreePBX (a
> distro which includes Linux and Asterisk) installed on a system acting as a PBX
> for the house and I've also got Lumenvox installed on that machine. With custom

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-07-08T05:48:52Z

Voice recognition systems are split into two main groups. One group requires a
very good signal (close talking mic and little background noise), typically
require training to a given user, but allow arbitrary speech (dictation). The
other group is designed for noisy environments, doesn't require training to a
specific user, but has a set vocabulary and grammar that it will recognize at a
time. The second type is used for call centers and is better for home
automation, but isn't typically available on desktop systems and is usually
expensive.

There is a cheap way to pull off getting the second type for a house or small
installation. Lumenvox is one company which makes the second type, and they've
got integration with the open source Asterisk PBX system and better yet they
have a starter kit for $50 for one channel. In my case I've got FreePBX (a
distro which includes Linux and Asterisk) installed on a system acting as a PBX
for the house and I've also got Lumenvox installed on that machine. With custom
code installed on that platform I can recognize speech from the house phones and
even call into the system from the hands free Bluetooth function of my car into
the house via VOIP connection. Then my code on the Asterisk box gathers the
speech to text and can submit it to my smarthome system which could then submit
it to Alicebot.

It's a round about way to get input to Alicebot, but it works very well with
call center quality voice recognition and besides the PBX function is generally
useful. I don't know of any other way to get this kind of voice recognition
cheaply.

Steve

Josip Almasi wrote:

>
>> Some suggest that I should by a better microphone. I'll find one
>> later. For the next days I'll be focusing on the device.
>
> Once I found out audio input had some inherent noise; no matter what mic
> I used I couldn't get good result.

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-07-08T00:49:45Z

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:
>
> You're right that speech-to-text was 'disaster'. I'm using Dragon
> Naturally Speaking. But I have to tell the truth: the problem is not
> merely about the software. It is my accent! :D

:))

FTR I used M$ built-in speech thing.
I found it suitable for only one purpose - learning proper (us) english
accent:)

As for your accent, again, try using different commands, maybe 'begin
measurement' instead of 'device on' etc.

> Some suggest that I should by a better microphone. I'll find one
> later. For the next days I'll be focusing on the device.

Once I found out audio input had some inherent noise; no matter what mic
I used I couldn't get good result.

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-07-03T19:33:39Z

Hello Josip

Thank you for your suggestions. But now I'm working with AIMLpad as
suggested by Gary Dubuque.

You're right that speech-to-text was 'disaster'. I'm using Dragon
Naturally Speaking. But I have to tell the truth: the problem is not
merely about the software. It is my accent! :D It doesn't recognize
when I say DEVICE ON, DEVICE OFF, READ TEMPERATURE, etc. The only
think it understands well is GO TO SLEEP :( <sniff>

Some suggest that I should by a better microphone. I'll find one
later. For the next days I'll be focusing on the device.

By the way, nice to hear that you made ALICE respond to laughter :)

2008/7/1, Josip Almasi <joe@...>:

>
> Sure.
> You just need some piece of code to send some singal to your bot.
> Say, endless loop that reads the device and sends 'TEMPERATURE
> something' to the bot, then implement TEMPERATURE tag in AIML.
> Details depend on what AIML interpreter you use.
>
>
> Well I didn't use AliceTalker but did integrate CloudGarden's JSAPI with
> ProgramD a while ago. Like, 5 years ago, so anything I say may be badly
> obsolete:)
> In short - text to speech worked just well, and speech to text was
> disaster. However, it is possible, in fact it's rather easy, to make a
> few commands that ALICE understands without trouble. Though it may take
> a while to ensure commands sound distinct. I.e. DEVICE ON and DEVICE OFF
> may sound simillar depending on tons of factor including your microphone
> and your way of pronouncement:) Well anyway, to achieve this you will
> need a grammar file. Here's one attached, HTH. As you may see, that's
> rather complex syntax, and I don't remember it anymore... but I do
> remember I made ALICE respond to laughter;)
>
> Regards...
>

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-07-01T05:07:47Z

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:
>
> My questions are:
> 1. I see that Alice recognizes inactivity. But could Alice be
> programmed to be 'proactive'? I mean, supposed we have thermal sensor,
> with a critical temperature has been set. Whenever the temperature is
> too hot, system sends a signal. Based on this signal, Alice will
> shout, "Hey, your device is gonna blow! Do something!"
> Could this be possible?

Sure.
You just need some piece of code to send some singal to your bot.
Say, endless loop that reads the device and sends 'TEMPERATURE
something' to the bot, then implement TEMPERATURE tag in AIML.
Details depend on what AIML interpreter you use.

> 2. I dont know whether this is do-able within my time frame, but I'm
> also interested to implement speech-to-text and text-to-speech. I've
> read AliceTalker from Cloud Garden, which says that it is suitable for
> Program D. But it last release seems too old. Does anyone here have
> any experience using AliceTalker? Or may be there is better/newer
> solution for this?

Well I didn't use AliceTalker but did integrate CloudGarden's JSAPI with
ProgramD a while ago. Like, 5 years ago, so anything I say may be badly
obsolete:)
In short - text to speech worked just well, and speech to text was
disaster. However, it is possible, in fact it's rather easy, to make a
few commands that ALICE understands without trouble. Though it may take
a while to ensure commands sound distinct. I.e. DEVICE ON and DEVICE OFF
may sound simillar depending on tons of factor including your microphone
and your way of pronouncement:) Well anyway, to achieve this you will
need a grammar file. Here's one attached, HTH. As you may see, that's
rather complex syntax, and I don't remember it anymore... but I do
remember I made ALICE respond to laughter;)

Regards...

/**

AliceBot speech grammar.
Based on examples provided with CloudGarden Speech API, http://www.cloudgarden.com/

*/

#JSGF V1.0;

grammar org.vrspace.alice;

//Demonstrate gating - when <gate> is <NULL>, it is ignored in sequence,
//but when <gate> is <VOID> it voids whole sequence.
/*
<gate> = <NULL>;
public <test1> = hello <gate> there;

<gate> = <VOID>;
public <test2> = hello <gate> there;

//Equivalent to <test3> = [hello | there];
public <test3> = hello | <NULL> | there;

//<VOID> ignored in RuleAlternate
public <test4> = good morning (hello | <VOID> | there);

//Right-recursion, equivalent to <test5> = there*;
//though saved internally as <test5> = [there <test5>];
//ViaVoice engine doesn't accept this rule, but Microsoft engine does.
//public <test5> = <NULL> | there <test5>;

public <test6> = twenty {2} (<NULL> {0} | one {1}) bananas;
public <test7> = twenty {2} (<NULL> {0} | one {1});

*/

//This rule should throw an error
//public <test8> = twenty {2} (<NULL> {0} | one {1} | <NULL> {error}) bananas;

/**
// this allways produces recursive error on my box (JOE)
<units> = one | two | three | four | five | six | seven | eight | nine;
<teens> = eleven | twelve | thirteen | fourteen | fifteen |
sixteen | seventeen | eighteen | nineteen;
<tens> = ten | twenty | thirty | forty | fifty | sixty | seventy |
eighty | ninety;
<hundreds> = <units> hundred;

public <number> = <hundreds> | <tens> | <teens> | <units> |
(<hundreds> [and] <tens>) |
(<hundreds> [and] <teens>) |
(<hundreds> [and] <units>) |
(<tens> [and] <units>) |
(<hundreds> [and] <tens> [and] <units>);

*/

//eg "start and pause and resume and finish"
public <recursive_command> = <action1> ( and <action1>)*;
<action1> = stop | start | pause | resume | finish;

/*
Note that any command which references itself, such as ...

public <recursive_command> = <action1> | (<action1> and <recursive_command>);

...won't work for ViaVoice engines, and instead you should use the form above...

public <recursive_command> = <action1> ( and <action1>)*;

*/

//"I'd like twenty five carrots some bananas and two hundred and five oranges"
//Also demonstrates use of tags.
/* and also no work cuz numbers no work
public <shopping> = I'd like {LIKE} <list>;
<amount> = [some] {SOME} | <number> {NUMBER};
<list> = <produce> (and {AND} <produce>)*;
<produce> = <amount> (carrots {CAR} | oranges {ORA} | bananas {BAN});

*/

//this may not work for SAPI4 engines
public <getname> = hello my name is <DICTATION>;

//public <greeting> = <hello> <name>* | top of the morning to you;
public <greeting> = <hello> <name>;

//public <spacetest> = test {tag with spaces};

<hello> = (hi|hello [there]) | ([good] (morning|evening|day) [to you]);

<name> = John {JON} | Sally {SAL} | Sam {SAM} | Joan {JOAN} |
Joe {JOE} | Rob {ROB} | Eddie {EDDIE} |
Alice {ALICE} | James {JAMES} | Tomcat {TOMCAT};

//eg "please close the window" or "open the bottle please"
/*
public <request> = [<polite>] <action2> <object> [<polite>];
<action2> = open {OP} | close {CL} | move {MV};
<object> = <this_that_etc> (window | door | <DICTATION>);
<this_that_etc> = this | that | the | a ;
<polite> = please | kindly;
*/

public <polite> = please | kindly | would you please;

public <request> = [<allow>|<polite>] <command> [<polite>] [<timeoption>];
<allow> = you (can|may);
<command> = follow me {FOLLOW} | stop {STOP} |
[move|turn] left {LEFT} | [move|turn] right {RIGHT} | [move|turn] back {BACK} |
[move|go] north {NORTH} | [move|go] south {SOUTH} | [move|go] east {EAST} | [move|go] west {WEST} |
zoom (in|out) {ZOOM} | (shutup|silence) {SHUTUP} | (talk|speak) {TALK};
<timeoption> = now|again;

public <sequence_test> = (how | what) (are) (we | you) [doing | feeling] [today];

public <laughter> = <laugh> <laugh> (<laugh>)*;
<laugh> = har | ho | hoo | hee | he | ha;

public <whatisthis> = what is (it|this|that) [ place | space | software | VRObject | User | Gate | Client | Transform ];

public <help> = [<polite>] [can you|I need] help [me] [<polite>];

public <goodbye> = ([good] bye) | (so long) | ((see|talk to) you later);

public <test> = [this is [just] [a]]test;

public <pasmater> = yebemtee [mother] | pasmater | eed u [kuratz|keetu];

public <goodgirl> = [very] (good [girl]| nice | allright | cool);

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Re: 8pla.net : The first ever phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

2008-06-16T08:20:11Z

I'm going to check it out now. However, I've done quite a bit of research on this myself and I'm a little skeptical about your claims. Maybe you are not aware of the products offered for other bulletin board/social network systems.

There's a lot out there. For example, I've experimented with phpBB, IPB, vBulletin, and a few others, and have dedicated sites using four different systems (the 4th is higher-end CMS system that I won't even bother to talk about here). If there is a mod/system that's better than what I have, I'm very open-minded about using it. Lately, it just seems that for a low-cost system, that vbulletin is the BEST out there right now (let me emphasize, low cost).

No knocks against phpBB, but it's lagging a little behind. If you could modify your system to integrate with vBulletin, then it would be a truly great little mod. Please keep an open-mind and look into this. I hope to someday hear you say, "Come check out the greatest Forum AI for vBulletin! See what all the excitement is about!" Because if you bring this over to vBulletin, it would be a truly great mod. (Once again, that's just my opinion and I run a phpBB board as well. vBulletin is better.)

I'm going to check out your link now. Thanks for the responses.

--------------------------

tazzarkin, come see what all the excitement is about at the: The phpBB community development site ... This phpBB development thread has nearly 4,000 views with over 100 replies, within only the last few weeks. The phpBB community is really excited about this Forum AI development. The purpose of joining this community was to make it aware of what's happening in the phpbb community related to AI. Program E is no longer dormant as stated in Wikipedia.

By the way, let's just repeat this again: No offense against VBulletin nor Flash AI. VBulletin and Flash AI are quite good. In fact, they are only mentioned for informational purposes and to open a dialog on the possibility of building a pure Forum AI mod for VBulletin, using the same level of engineering for the Forum Artificial Intelligence as that of VBulletin itself. That is an exciting possibility. One of the reasons Flash is so popular, is that is it known to be a fun shortcut, which is cool, and gets eye candy results. For example, there are PC Games, and then sometimes there is a light weight Flash Version of the Game usually free online.

To put it another way, there may be an opportunity to do for VBulletin what is being done for phpBB3. Full blown server-side database driven Forum Artificial Intelligence. This is Forum AI the hard way, fully advanced, directly engineered into the Forum engine. No shortcuts! The difficulty level for the mod is: Advanced. Not Beginner. Not Intermediate. Forum AI is one of the few forum mods listed as Advanced.

Thank you tazzarkin very much for discussing all your interesting AI information with an open mind.

Is there a way to get your mod/integrated code for phpBB3 Forum AI? Is it open source or something you plan on selling? I would love to try it out. I'm very open-minded when it comes to trying new methods of AI. If it is available, could you please send me a message. Maybe I could be a beta-tester for you as well.

As for the AI for vbulletin, you are mistaken about there being no forum-based AI. The problem lies in the fact that there are many different mods spread out there and sometimes hard to find. Yes, there is the Flashed-based AI, which is integrated into PHP-based vbulletin using SQL (which is very easy to find and fully-supported). Since the Flash-AI is integrated into vbulletin, it gives you the ability to interact with the Forums/blogs/so forth. It does use AIML and SQL.

There are other modules out there that allows the same AI to work with a PHP-based type AI (seperate from the flash-based AI), which is very similar to your product. Let me stress, these mods are PHP-based, not flash. There is one mod specifically that is hard to find and is not fully-supported. However, it gives you the ablity to learn from any conversation you have in the PHP-based chat and in the Forums. You can even select the specific Forums that it can learn from, and it is also SQL-based using AIML.

Vbulletin actually has integrated Flash-based AND PHP-based mods to work with AIML, however, sometimes they are hard to find because people don't really use them that much. But they are out there and quite useful if you know how to use them.

However, keeping an open-mind... is there a way I can get your next generation phpBB3 Forum AI ? The one thing about the vbulletin mods is that the Flash-based one costs $5 and the PHP-based one is free. Will you be selling yours? I would really be willing to test it out. Another question, does the AIML let you run embedded HTML and javascript commands? If this is truly the best, I would be willing to take the time to test it out. If it's better than vbulletin, I would be the first to say so. I need to try it first.

----------------------------------------------------------------

8pla.net wrote:

tazzarkin,
No offense intended against VBulletin nor Flash-Based AI. All AI work is sincerely appreciated and fully supported. However, you just said it. The Forum AI used by VBulletin is Flash-based, and not even written in PHP and MySQL, used to engineer the VBulletin forum itself. So this means VBulletin's lack of Forum AI, forces it to share the same class of Flash-Based AI used by chatrooms, and Instant Messaging programs, etc. VBulletin does not actually have pure Forum AI.

phpBB3 Forum AI is written in the native programming languages PHP and MySQL used to engineer the phpBB forum itself, (and also VBulletin for that matter). It runs as a very powerful server with a huge phpBB3 Forum AI database brain integrated into the most widely used forum bulletin board in the world used by millions on a daily basis. While Flash AI is a small applet written in Flash, which runs in a web browser.

Please remember this: 8pla.net is the next generation phpBB3 Forum AI; it is unique and currently the only pure actively developed Forum AI in the entire world.

tazzarkin wrote:

I checked out 8pla.net and it's great what you did. The site is really creative and you did a wonderful job.

However, I just want people to know that VBulletin has a new social network/bulletin board system out that supports AIML through PHP, and has many Flash-based interfaces that you can purchase cheaply that allows you to do exactly what you're describing about phpBB3.

I've checked out many of the bulletin board systems, and it's my opinion (let me stress... it's my opinion) that vbulletin has the best integrated mods to support this. As with everything, there's a little programming involved and some searching for the right mods (as with any bb system). I just think that vbulletin is the most friendly (better that phpBB).

I don't work for vbulletin. I'm only writing this so people are not misinformed. Once again, great job on 8pla.net. It's really creative what you did. Good job.

Re: 8pla.net : The first ever phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

2008-06-15T19:37:01Z

tazzarkin, come see what all the excitement is about at the: The phpBB community development site ... This phpBB development thread has nearly 4,000 views with over 100 replies, within only the last few weeks. The phpBB community is really excited about this Forum AI development. The purpose of joining this community was to make it aware of what's happening in the phpbb community related to AI. Program E is no longer dormant as stated in Wikipedia.

By the way, let's just repeat this again: No offense against VBulletin nor Flash AI. VBulletin and Flash AI are quite good. In fact, they are only mentioned for informational purposes and to open a dialog on the possibility of building a pure Forum AI mod for VBulletin, using the same level of engineering for the Forum Artificial Intelligence as that of VBulletin itself. That is an exciting possibility. One of the reasons Flash is so popular, is that is it known to be a fun shortcut, which is cool, and gets eye candy results. For example, there are PC Games, and then sometimes there is a light weight Flash Version of the Game usually free online.

To put it another way, there may be an opportunity to do for VBulletin what is being done for phpBB3. Full blown server-side database driven Forum Artificial Intelligence. This is Forum AI the hard way, fully advanced, directly engineered into the Forum engine. No shortcuts! The difficulty level for the mod is: Advanced. Not Beginner. Not Intermediate. Forum AI is one of the few forum mods listed as Advanced.

Thank you tazzarkin very much for discussing all your interesting AI information with an open mind.

Is there a way to get your mod/integrated code for phpBB3 Forum AI? Is it open source or something you plan on selling? I would love to try it out. I'm very open-minded when it comes to trying new methods of AI. If it is available, could you please send me a message. Maybe I could be a beta-tester for you as well.

As for the AI for vbulletin, you are mistaken about there being no forum-based AI. The problem lies in the fact that there are many different mods spread out there and sometimes hard to find. Yes, there is the Flashed-based AI, which is integrated into PHP-based vbulletin using SQL (which is very easy to find and fully-supported). Since the Flash-AI is integrated into vbulletin, it gives you the ability to interact with the Forums/blogs/so forth. It does use AIML and SQL.

There are other modules out there that allows the same AI to work with a PHP-based type AI (seperate from the flash-based AI), which is very similar to your product. Let me stress, these mods are PHP-based, not flash. There is one mod specifically that is hard to find and is not fully-supported. However, it gives you the ablity to learn from any conversation you have in the PHP-based chat and in the Forums. You can even select the specific Forums that it can learn from, and it is also SQL-based using AIML.

Vbulletin actually has integrated Flash-based AND PHP-based mods to work with AIML, however, sometimes they are hard to find because people don't really use them that much. But they are out there and quite useful if you know how to use them.

However, keeping an open-mind... is there a way I can get your next generation phpBB3 Forum AI ? The one thing about the vbulletin mods is that the Flash-based one costs $5 and the PHP-based one is free. Will you be selling yours? I would really be willing to test it out. Another question, does the AIML let you run embedded HTML and javascript commands? If this is truly the best, I would be willing to take the time to test it out. If it's better than vbulletin, I would be the first to say so. I need to try it first.

----------------------------------------------------------------

8pla.net wrote:

tazzarkin,
No offense intended against VBulletin nor Flash-Based AI. All AI work is sincerely appreciated and fully supported. However, you just said it. The Forum AI used by VBulletin is Flash-based, and not even written in PHP and MySQL, used to engineer the VBulletin forum itself. So this means VBulletin's lack of Forum AI, forces it to share the same class of Flash-Based AI used by chatrooms, and Instant Messaging programs, etc. VBulletin does not actually have pure Forum AI.

phpBB3 Forum AI is written in the native programming languages PHP and MySQL used to engineer the phpBB forum itself, (and also VBulletin for that matter). It runs as a very powerful server with a huge phpBB3 Forum AI database brain integrated into the most widely used forum bulletin board in the world used by millions on a daily basis. While Flash AI is a small applet written in Flash, which runs in a web browser.

Please remember this: 8pla.net is the next generation phpBB3 Forum AI; it is unique and currently the only pure actively developed Forum AI in the entire world.

tazzarkin wrote:

I checked out 8pla.net and it's great what you did. The site is really creative and you did a wonderful job.

However, I just want people to know that VBulletin has a new social network/bulletin board system out that supports AIML through PHP, and has many Flash-based interfaces that you can purchase cheaply that allows you to do exactly what you're describing about phpBB3.

I've checked out many of the bulletin board systems, and it's my opinion (let me stress... it's my opinion) that vbulletin has the best integrated mods to support this. As with everything, there's a little programming involved and some searching for the right mods (as with any bb system). I just think that vbulletin is the most friendly (better that phpBB).

I don't work for vbulletin. I'm only writing this so people are not misinformed. Once again, great job on 8pla.net. It's really creative what you did. Good job.

Re: 8pla.net : The first ever phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

2008-06-15T06:54:23Z

Is there a way to get your mod/integrated code for phpBB3 Forum AI? Is it open source or something you plan on selling? I would love to try it out. I'm very open-minded when it comes to trying new methods of AI. If it is available, could you please send me a message. Maybe I could be a beta-tester for you as well.

As for the AI for vbulletin, you are mistaken about there being no forum-based AI. The problem lies in the fact that there are many different mods spread out there and sometimes hard to find. Yes, there is the Flashed-based AI, which is integrated into PHP-based vbulletin using SQL (which is very easy to find and fully-supported). Since the Flash-AI is integrated into vbulletin, it gives you the ability to interact with the Forums/blogs/so forth. It does use AIML and SQL.

There are other modules out there that allows the same AI to work with a PHP-based type AI (seperate from the flash-based AI), which is very similar to your product. Let me stress, these mods are PHP-based, not flash. There is one mod specifically that is hard to find and is not fully-supported. However, it gives you the ablity to learn from any conversation you have in the PHP-based chat and in the Forums. You can even select the specific Forums that it can learn from, and it is also SQL-based using AIML.

Vbulletin actually has integrated Flash-based AND PHP-based mods to work with AIML, however, sometimes they are hard to find because people don't really use them that much. But they are out there and quite useful if you know how to use them.

However, keeping an open-mind... is there a way I can get your next generation phpBB3 Forum AI ? The one thing about the vbulletin mods is that the Flash-based one costs $5 and the PHP-based one is free. Will you be selling yours? I would really be willing to test it out. Another question, does the AIML let you run embedded HTML and javascript commands? If this is truly the best, I would be willing to take the time to test it out. If it's better than vbulletin, I would be the first to say so. I need to try it first.

----------------------------------------------------------------

tazzarkin,
No offense intended against VBulletin nor Flash-Based AI. All AI work is sincerely appreciated and fully supported. However, you just said it. The Forum AI used by VBulletin is Flash-based, and not even written in PHP and MySQL, used to engineer the VBulletin forum itself. So this means VBulletin's lack of Forum AI, forces it to share the same class of Flash-Based AI used by chatrooms, and Instant Messaging programs, etc. VBulletin does not actually have pure Forum AI.

phpBB3 Forum AI is written in the native programming languages PHP and MySQL used to engineer the phpBB forum itself, (and also VBulletin for that matter). It runs as a very powerful server with a huge phpBB3 Forum AI database brain integrated into the most widely used forum bulletin board in the world used by millions on a daily basis. While Flash AI is a small applet written in Flash, which runs in a web browser.

Please remember this: 8pla.net is the next generation phpBB3 Forum AI; it is unique and currently the only pure actively developed Forum AI in the entire world.

tazzarkin wrote:

I checked out 8pla.net and it's great what you did. The site is really creative and you did a wonderful job.

However, I just want people to know that VBulletin has a new social network/bulletin board system out that supports AIML through PHP, and has many Flash-based interfaces that you can purchase cheaply that allows you to do exactly what you're describing about phpBB3.

I've checked out many of the bulletin board systems, and it's my opinion (let me stress... it's my opinion) that vbulletin has the best integrated mods to support this. As with everything, there's a little programming involved and some searching for the right mods (as with any bb system). I just think that vbulletin is the most friendly (better that phpBB).

I don't work for vbulletin. I'm only writing this so people are not misinformed. Once again, great job on 8pla.net. It's really creative what you did. Good job.

Re: 8pla.net : The first ever phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

2008-06-13T20:50:03Z

tazzarkin,
No offense intended against VBulletin nor Flash-Based AI. All AI work is sincerely appreciated and fully supported. However, you just said it. The Forum AI used by VBulletin is Flash-based, and not even written in PHP and MySQL, used to engineer the VBulletin forum itself. So this means VBulletin's lack of Forum AI, forces it to share the same class of Flash-Based AI used by chatrooms, and Instant Messaging programs, etc. VBulletin does not actually have pure Forum AI.

phpBB3 Forum AI is written in the native programming languages PHP and MySQL used to engineer the phpBB forum itself, (and also VBulletin for that matter). It runs as a very powerful server with a huge phpBB3 Forum AI database brain integrated into the most widely used forum bulletin board in the world used by millions on a daily basis. While Flash AI is a small applet written in Flash, which runs in a web browser.

Please remember this: 8pla.net is the next generation phpBB3 Forum AI; it is unique and currently the only pure actively developed Forum AI in the entire world.

tazzarkin wrote:

I checked out 8pla.net and it's great what you did. The site is really creative and you did a wonderful job.

However, I just want people to know that VBulletin has a new social network/bulletin board system out that supports AIML through PHP, and has many Flash-based interfaces that you can purchase cheaply that allows you to do exactly what you're describing about phpBB3.

I've checked out many of the bulletin board systems, and it's my opinion (let me stress... it's my opinion) that vbulletin has the best integrated mods to support this. As with everything, there's a little programming involved and some searching for the right mods (as with any bb system). I just think that vbulletin is the most friendly (better that phpBB).

I don't work for vbulletin. I'm only writing this so people are not misinformed. Once again, great job on 8pla.net. It's really creative what you did. Good job.

Re: 8pla.net : The first ever phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

2008-06-13T18:46:38Z

I checked out 8pla.net and it's great what you did. The site is really creative and you did a wonderful job.

However, I just want people to know that VBulletin has a new social network/bulletin board system out that supports AIML through PHP, and has many Flash-based interfaces that you can purchase cheaply that allows you to do exactly what you're describing about phpBB3.

I've checked out many of the bulletin board systems, and it's my opinion (let me stress... it's my opinion) that vbulletin has the best integrated mods to support this. As with everything, there's a little programming involved and some searching for the right mods (as with any bb system). I just think that vbulletin is the most friendly (better that phpBB).

I don't work for vbulletin. I'm only writing this so people are not misinformed. Once again, great job on 8pla.net. It's really creative what you did. Good job.

Re: 8pla.net : The first ever phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

2008-06-13T08:22:37Z

The phpBB community is so excited about the new development of Forum AI for the latest version of phpBB 3.0.1
According to the phpBB community, 8pla.net is the first and currently the only phpBB3 Forum AI on the entire internet.
The point is that this is brand new phpBB3 Forum AI development; the legacy AI systems are incompatible with the latest advanced forum technologies and have since been abandoned . As a result, the phpBB community really misses Forum AI and is now celebrating the new phpBB3 Forum AI development project at phpbb.com.

It's great if you can integrate an AI on phpBB. The more you contribute, the more it helps the AI and forum community as a whole. However, vBulletin has had A.I. on their boards for a few years now using ProgramE. Plus, there are many open source PHP/AIML projects that have already been integrated into numerous bulletin board systems. They even learn from posts throughout the forums.

So, for you to make the baseless claim that you are the 1st and only one is silly.

Do research before you make such ridiculous claims again.

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Re: 8pla.net : The first ever phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

2008-06-13T07:32:25Z

It's great if you can integrate an AI on phpBB. The more you contribute, the more it helps the AI and forum community as a whole. However, vBulletin has had A.I. on their boards for a few years now using ProgramE. Plus, there are many open source PHP/AIML projects that have already been integrated into numerous bulletin board systems. They even learn from posts throughout the forums.

So, for you to make the baseless claim that you are the 1st and only one is silly.

Do research before you make such ridiculous claims again.

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Perhaps the most meaningful way to support Artificial Intelligence presents itself when a new form of AI is born. 8pla.net is currently the first, one and only ALL NEW, phpBB 3 Forum Artificial Intelligence in the world.

Based on all the latest new technologies: Brand new phpBB version 3.0.1, Brand new php version 5, Brand new mySQL version 5 … with Program E and AIML. The latest version of the most widely used bulletin board in the world, phpBB used by millions on a daily basis, now has it’s own phpBB3 Forum AI development project.

The phpBB community is really excited to see this actually working making remarkable progress at 8pla.net. Having long awaited phpBB3 Forum AI, members of the phpBB community are providing human interaction to help build the forum artificial intelligence at 8pla.net. So that this robot can be released as soon as possible.

Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-06-04T05:33:34Z

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:
> Ah... apparently Henrique's email is for you, Steve. I'm sorry I took
> your place :D

That's OK, your answer is more on the alicebot topic anyway. I'm curious to see
where this goes.

Steve

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-06-03T22:13:53Z

Ah... apparently Henrique's email is for you, Steve. I'm sorry I took
your place :D

2008/6/4, Steve Prior <sprior@...>:
> Quoting Henrique Borges <henriqueborges@...>:
>
>> > I´ve seen similar implementations using the alicebot as the NL (natural
>> > language) parser.
>> >
>
>
...
>
> Steve
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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-06-03T22:05:52Z

You are right, that is the same with what I had in mind.

I created some categories like these:

<category>
<pattern>DEVICEON</pattern>
<template><system>deviceon.exe</system> I'm up and running now
</template></category>

<category>
<pattern>_ TURN ON DEVICE</pattern>
<template><srai>DEVICEON</srai>
</template></category>

<category>
<pattern>TURN * ON</pattern>
<template><srai>DEVICEON</srai>
</template></category>

<category>
<pattern>START DEVICE</pattern>
<template><srai>DEVICEON</srai>
</template></category>

and so on... So, it would be possible to control devices using
(relatively) flexible commands.

2008/6/3, Henrique Borges <henriqueborges@...>:
> I´ve seen similar implementations using the alicebot as the NL (natural
> language) parser.
>
> In this implementation, all input is sent to the bot, which in turns send
> "commands" (maybe normalized sentences, after applying srai s and
> substitutions) to a "processing core". Have you considered this alternative,
> Ariyo? If so (and I believe you did consider) why you prefered to use a
> prolog parser?
>
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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-06-03T10:09:54Z

Quoting Henrique Borges <henriqueborges@...>:

> > I´ve seen similar implementations using the alicebot as the NL (natural
> > language) parser.
> >
> > In this implementation, all input is sent to the bot, which in turns send
> > "commands" (maybe normalized sentences, after applying srai s and
> > substitutions) to a "processing core". Have you considered this
> alternative,
> > Ariyo? If so (and I believe you did consider) why you prefered to use a
> > prolog parser?

My initial goal didn't start with natural language processing at all, it was
designing an "intelligent" central control system for a home automation system.
That Prolog engine doesn't just handle the natural language inputs to the
system, it decides how to respond to ALL events the system encounters - motion
detected, X10 events, door sensors, whatever. I thought a rule based language
like Prolog would be a pretty natural fit for this type of project, and I'm
happy with the results. Natural language ended up being one of the user
interfaces, but certainly not the only one. Simply opening the front door of
the house became part of the user interface - if it was dark outside the system
would turn on the outside lights for you. If there was motion detected at the
garage, the Prolog engine would request a snapshot from the computer
controlling that camera, hand that image off to a storage database for review,
send that image to another computer which would use it as the new desktop
background, and then request that a MS Agent would announce "Garage Motion!" -
BTW, that last part backfired on me a little when my 2 year old son started
imitating the MS Agent - not good when Peedy teaches you how to talk :-)

Steve

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-06-03T09:27:41Z

Sorry. I wrote "Ariyo". I should have written "Steve".

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Henrique Borges <henriqueborges@...> wrote:

I´ve seen similar implementations using the alicebot as the NL (natural language) parser.

In this implementation, all input is sent to the bot, which in turns send "commands" (maybe normalized sentences, after applying srai s and substitutions) to a "processing core". Have you considered this alternative, Ariyo? If so (and I believe you did consider) why you prefered to use a prolog parser?

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Steve Prior <sprior@...> wrote:

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:
> Wow... Your home must be very sophisticated, Steve! I'm imagining that
> it's like of Richie Rich's home :)

I'm having fun. Actually just moved into a new house 2 months ago so now I'm
planning how to do it all over again.

>
> By the way, I dont understand when you said "Another trick I use is to
> carry context in the Prolog engine".

This is why I'm maybe getting a little off topic for an alicebot mailing list.
My system isn't controlled by alicebot, but simply uses it as part of a larger
system. When you type an input sentence into the chat interface it is submitted
to the central "brain" I wrote in the Prolog language (SWI Prolog to be exact).
The brain has a small natural language parser which is sufficient to handle
input sentences which are specific to queries and actions possible for the rest
of my system. "turn on the living room lights." is an action that can be
performed through my X10 device interface which I've written for Prolog. Only
if my Prolog code can't parse an input sentence itself does it pass it through
to alicebot and then return that response. The context which I was referring to
is entirely in Prolog and is handled by an assert() and can be queried by future
handlers. For example if I say "turn on the outside lights" the Prolog engine
will understand "outside" as a location, then discover the X10 devices which are
outside from the SQL database, then turn them on, but it will also
assert(current_location(outside)). Then if I follow up with simply "show me",
the Prolog handler for that will query current_location(Location) and then use
that Location to determine which computer controls the camera for that location,
ask that computer for a frame grab, then return it. BTW, in case you picked
that up, my system is fully distributed using CORBA between VB6, Java and C++
code (the C++ code provides a 2 way interface with Prolog). Part of the VB6
code serves up a Microsoft Agent so for example the Prolog engine can request
that any of the Windows boxes use their MS Agents to speak something, or
otherwise control the agent (show, hide, move, whatever). I got bored one night
a few years ago and had Peedy on 3 different computers saying/singing "row row
row your boat" in a round all controlled from the Prolog engine - only took
about 15 minutes to write on top of what was there. Since everything can talk
to any of the CORBA services, I can mix and match and use multiple user
interfaces - the web based chat uses exactly the same chat interface to Prolog
that the VB6 chat interface uses. And when I give a voice command through the
PBX system, the Java code which I've got controlling the call also uses that
same core natural language engine via the CORBA service.

So back to the question, the context currently stays in the Prolog engine and
doesn't get down to alicebot, but if I wanted to give it a bit more of a clue
I'd simply pass all input to alicebot even if the Prolog engine gave the actual
response - that way alicebot would still be able to gather any context it could
from the conversation.

Steve

>
> What do you mean by "context" here? It is a kind of using <topic> tag?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Ariyo

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-06-03T09:25:08Z

I´ve seen similar implementations using the alicebot as the NL (natural language) parser.

In this implementation, all input is sent to the bot, which in turns send "commands" (maybe normalized sentences, after applying srai s and substitutions) to a "processing core". Have you considered this alternative, Ariyo? If so (and I believe you did consider) why you prefered to use a prolog parser?

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Steve Prior <sprior@...> wrote:

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:
> Wow... Your home must be very sophisticated, Steve! I'm imagining that
> it's like of Richie Rich's home :)

I'm having fun. Actually just moved into a new house 2 months ago so now I'm
planning how to do it all over again.

>
> By the way, I dont understand when you said "Another trick I use is to
> carry context in the Prolog engine".

This is why I'm maybe getting a little off topic for an alicebot mailing list.
My system isn't controlled by alicebot, but simply uses it as part of a larger
system. When you type an input sentence into the chat interface it is submitted
to the central "brain" I wrote in the Prolog language (SWI Prolog to be exact).
The brain has a small natural language parser which is sufficient to handle
input sentences which are specific to queries and actions possible for the rest
of my system. "turn on the living room lights." is an action that can be
performed through my X10 device interface which I've written for Prolog. Only
if my Prolog code can't parse an input sentence itself does it pass it through
to alicebot and then return that response. The context which I was referring to
is entirely in Prolog and is handled by an assert() and can be queried by future
handlers. For example if I say "turn on the outside lights" the Prolog engine
will understand "outside" as a location, then discover the X10 devices which are
outside from the SQL database, then turn them on, but it will also
assert(current_location(outside)). Then if I follow up with simply "show me",
the Prolog handler for that will query current_location(Location) and then use
that Location to determine which computer controls the camera for that location,
ask that computer for a frame grab, then return it. BTW, in case you picked
that up, my system is fully distributed using CORBA between VB6, Java and C++
code (the C++ code provides a 2 way interface with Prolog). Part of the VB6
code serves up a Microsoft Agent so for example the Prolog engine can request
that any of the Windows boxes use their MS Agents to speak something, or
otherwise control the agent (show, hide, move, whatever). I got bored one night
a few years ago and had Peedy on 3 different computers saying/singing "row row
row your boat" in a round all controlled from the Prolog engine - only took
about 15 minutes to write on top of what was there. Since everything can talk
to any of the CORBA services, I can mix and match and use multiple user
interfaces - the web based chat uses exactly the same chat interface to Prolog
that the VB6 chat interface uses. And when I give a voice command through the
PBX system, the Java code which I've got controlling the call also uses that
same core natural language engine via the CORBA service.

So back to the question, the context currently stays in the Prolog engine and
doesn't get down to alicebot, but if I wanted to give it a bit more of a clue
I'd simply pass all input to alicebot even if the Prolog engine gave the actual
response - that way alicebot would still be able to gather any context it could
from the conversation.

Steve

>
> What do you mean by "context" here? It is a kind of using <topic> tag?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Ariyo

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-06-02T20:43:59Z

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:
> Wow... Your home must be very sophisticated, Steve! I'm imagining that
> it's like of Richie Rich's home :)

I'm having fun. Actually just moved into a new house 2 months ago so now I'm
planning how to do it all over again.

>
> By the way, I dont understand when you said "Another trick I use is to
> carry context in the Prolog engine".

This is why I'm maybe getting a little off topic for an alicebot mailing list.
My system isn't controlled by alicebot, but simply uses it as part of a larger
system. When you type an input sentence into the chat interface it is submitted
to the central "brain" I wrote in the Prolog language (SWI Prolog to be exact).
The brain has a small natural language parser which is sufficient to handle
input sentences which are specific to queries and actions possible for the rest
of my system. "turn on the living room lights." is an action that can be
performed through my X10 device interface which I've written for Prolog. Only
if my Prolog code can't parse an input sentence itself does it pass it through
to alicebot and then return that response. The context which I was referring to
is entirely in Prolog and is handled by an assert() and can be queried by future
handlers. For example if I say "turn on the outside lights" the Prolog engine
will understand "outside" as a location, then discover the X10 devices which are
outside from the SQL database, then turn them on, but it will also
assert(current_location(outside)). Then if I follow up with simply "show me",
the Prolog handler for that will query current_location(Location) and then use
that Location to determine which computer controls the camera for that location,
ask that computer for a frame grab, then return it. BTW, in case you picked
that up, my system is fully distributed using CORBA between VB6, Java and C++
code (the C++ code provides a 2 way interface with Prolog). Part of the VB6
code serves up a Microsoft Agent so for example the Prolog engine can request
that any of the Windows boxes use their MS Agents to speak something, or
otherwise control the agent (show, hide, move, whatever). I got bored one night
a few years ago and had Peedy on 3 different computers saying/singing "row row
row your boat" in a round all controlled from the Prolog engine - only took
about 15 minutes to write on top of what was there. Since everything can talk
to any of the CORBA services, I can mix and match and use multiple user
interfaces - the web based chat uses exactly the same chat interface to Prolog
that the VB6 chat interface uses. And when I give a voice command through the
PBX system, the Java code which I've got controlling the call also uses that
same core natural language engine via the CORBA service.

So back to the question, the context currently stays in the Prolog engine and
doesn't get down to alicebot, but if I wanted to give it a bit more of a clue
I'd simply pass all input to alicebot even if the Prolog engine gave the actual
response - that way alicebot would still be able to gather any context it could
from the conversation.

Steve

>
> What do you mean by "context" here? It is a kind of using <topic> tag?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Ariyo

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-05-30T19:41:19Z

Ariyo Nugroho

Well the voice synthesis of SAPI5 or SAPI4 text-to-speech
is far less than production quality. In short, it sounds very
disappointing. Maybe it is good for learning the basics, but
don't stop there.

There is one SAPI5 VB sample code that uses pre-recorded
words, that is quite limited, but at least sounds excellent.

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:

Hello everyone!

I am an electronics engineering student from Indonesia. For my final
project, I have an idea to use Alicebot to control devices (using PLC
or microcontroller). I think this would be more fun, instead of
controlling them using 'conservative' switches.

I haven't developed the device yet. Because now I'm still learning
AIML, using Program D.

My questions are:
1. I see that Alice recognizes inactivity. But could Alice be
programmed to be 'proactive'? I mean, supposed we have thermal sensor,
with a critical temperature has been set. Whenever the temperature is
too hot, system sends a signal. Based on this signal, Alice will
shout, "Hey, your device is gonna blow! Do something!"
Could this be possible?
2. I dont know whether this is do-able within my time frame, but I'm
also interested to implement speech-to-text and text-to-speech. I've
read AliceTalker from Cloud Garden, which says that it is suitable for
Program D. But it last release seems too old. Does anyone here have
any experience using AliceTalker? Or may be there is better/newer
solution for this?

Thank you very much for your help in advance!!!

Best regards,

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-05-30T16:59:54Z

Wow... Your home must be very sophisticated, Steve! I'm imagining that
it's like of Richie Rich's home :)

By the way, I dont understand when you said "Another trick I use is to
carry context in the Prolog engine".

What do you mean by "context" here? It is a kind of using <topic> tag?

Regards,

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2008-05-30T10:01:51Z

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-05-28T20:09:32Z

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:
> Hello Mr Steve
>
> Glad that there is someone who is doing the same thing there :)
>
> Your idea of 'cheating' ALICE was great. I just realized that actually
> ALICE is not conscious, right? She is not truly 'understanding' what
> she said. So it doesn't matter if the warning message sent while she
> doesn't notice it. The more important thing here is: the user received
> the warning message.

My system as a bunch of layers and services. Some requests wait for a response
(like chat input), but most are asynch notifications or commands (avoids
deadlock). My system has a bunch of different interfaces - web page based
"chat" style where each input from the user gets one response, and other
interfaces which are asynchronous (including voice synthesis through Microsoft
agents on Windows boxes as well as via text to speech on a Linux based PBX
system). Inputs to the system include natural language for chat as well as
canned queries in response to device events. For inputs which require actions
in my system or queries of real time data the Prolog engine handles the
response. For inputs for static information the AliceBot engine can provide the
answer. Another trick I use is to carry context in the Prolog engine - for
example if you ask for a light to be turned on I keep the location of that light
as the current context. So then if you ask to see a picture and don't specify a
location it assumes the location of the last action you took. For example:

"what's the forecast?"

<today's forecast>

"how about tomorrow?"

<tomorrow's forecast>

"Wednesday?"

<wednesdays forecast>

"is it raining?"

<response gathered from rain gauge on roof>

"show me"

<shows a picture from outside - where the weather is>

"turn off the living room lights"

<the living room lights are now off.>

"show me"

<shows a picture of the living room>

But when the front door is opened and the "brain" gets notification of that
event, it sends an asynch message to the living room computer to tell the MS
Agent character to say "front door open!"

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-05-27T22:50:40Z

Hello Mr Gary

What do you mean by 'local' web server? Do you mean there is another
web server, e.g remote web server? I'm sorry that I'm still a newbie
here. There are still some terms i dont understand. I'll be learning
that :)

I tried to download AIMLpad last night, but apparently sourceforge was
undergoing maintenance. I'll try again later.

Thanks for your suggestion :)

Regards,

Ariyo

2008/5/27, Gary Dubuque <gdubuque@...>:
> Hi,
>
> It's been awhile, but here goes the advertisement: try AIMLpad, AKA Program
> N, if you can stand using the MS Windows environment.
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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-05-27T22:47:57Z

Hello Mr Steve

Glad that there is someone who is doing the same thing there :)

Your idea of 'cheating' ALICE was great. I just realized that actually
ALICE is not conscious, right? She is not truly 'understanding' what
she said. So it doesn't matter if the warning message sent while she
doesn't notice it. The more important thing here is: the user received
the warning message.

Mr Gary's idea for sending message to the bot on periodic time is also
interesting. But i think it would add a little load to the system.
Especially if the period is short.

That's just my opinion :)

Regards,

Ariyo

2008/5/25, Steve Prior <sprior@...>:

> I was thinking about the same sort of problem, then realized there was an
> easier
> solution. I've got a home automation system and wanted to be able to
> control it
> using a chat style interface and thought Alicebot would be a great addition.
>
> What I ended up doing was to write my own limited natural language interface
> that was capable of handling queries and controls for the HA system (I wrote
> it
> in SWI-Prolog), but if my own system couldn't parse the input I then passed
> it
> to Alicebot through the HTTP interface for a response. This is kind of a
> cheat,
> but it provides a depth to the interface even though in effect Alicebot is
> only
> providing cute error messages - some of the responses have surprised me at
> times.
>
> So your device could send out that "device is gonna blow" message on its own
> and
> Alicebot would only be involved when there was an input from the user.
>
> Steve

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-05-26T16:11:39Z

Hi,

It's been awhile, but here goes the advertisement: try AIMLpad, AKA Program
N, if you can stand using the MS Windows environment.

Background inputs can be received through the local web server to update the
common store used by the predicates. But also the regular bot inputs can
time out and force a given text input to the bot to check on the status of
the environment.

AIMLpad interfaces with the operating system, so any .exe can be used to
acquire the sensor data which can be read from plain text files by the
AIMLpad scripting commands into the AIML predicates. It can also post
requests to websites to acquire the data (such as the outside temperature
from a weather service website.)

The editor also has the MS Agent to express the warnings. It can use
speech-to-text products as well as it already takes advantage of the MS
speech interfaces to produce text-to-speech output. The speaking can be
either by demand of the scripting commands or by the response delivered
through the AIML processing.

Also, it can popup message boxes outside the conversation to provide special
dialogues about the operating environment. Again these could be real-time
based upon the messages it received through the background web requests.

In other words, AIMLpad is not only a user interface; it is a server that
can coordinate operating system commands and sequencing of events using its
timeouts as heartbeats.

It's just another possibility for a small laptop controlling a robot.

Thanks,
Gary Dubuque

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Subject: Re: [alicebot-developer] Alicebot to control device

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I am an electronics engineering student from Indonesia. For my final
> project, I have an idea to use Alicebot to control devices (using PLC
> or microcontroller). I think this would be more fun, instead of
> controlling them using 'conservative' switches.
>
> I haven't developed the device yet. Because now I'm still learning
> AIML, using Program D.
>
> My questions are:
> 1. I see that Alice recognizes inactivity. But could Alice be
> programmed to be 'proactive'? I mean, supposed we have thermal sensor,
> with a critical temperature has been set. Whenever the temperature is
> too hot, system sends a signal. Based on this signal, Alice will
> shout, "Hey, your device is gonna blow! Do something!"
> Could this be possible?
> 2. I dont know whether this is do-able within my time frame, but I'm
> also interested to implement speech-to-text and text-to-speech. I've
> read AliceTalker from Cloud Garden, which says that it is suitable for
> Program D. But it last release seems too old. Does anyone here have
> any experience using AliceTalker? Or may be there is better/newer
> solution for this?

I was thinking about the same sort of problem, then realized there was an
easier
solution. I've got a home automation system and wanted to be able to
control it
using a chat style interface and thought Alicebot would be a great addition.

What I ended up doing was to write my own limited natural language interface

that was capable of handling queries and controls for the HA system (I wrote
it
in SWI-Prolog), but if my own system couldn't parse the input I then passed
it
to Alicebot through the HTTP interface for a response. This is kind of a
cheat,
but it provides a depth to the interface even though in effect Alicebot is
only
providing cute error messages - some of the responses have surprised me at
times.

So your device could send out that "device is gonna blow" message on its own
and
Alicebot would only be involved when there was an input from the user.

Steve

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Re: Alicebot to control device

2008-05-25T06:43:09Z

Ariyo Nugroho wrote:

I was thinking about the same sort of problem, then realized there was an easier
solution. I've got a home automation system and wanted to be able to control it
using a chat style interface and thought Alicebot would be a great addition.

What I ended up doing was to write my own limited natural language interface
that was capable of handling queries and controls for the HA system (I wrote it
in SWI-Prolog), but if my own system couldn't parse the input I then passed it
to Alicebot through the HTTP interface for a response. This is kind of a cheat,
but it provides a depth to the interface even though in effect Alicebot is only
providing cute error messages - some of the responses have surprised me at times.

So your device could send out that "device is gonna blow" message on its own and
Alicebot would only be involved when there was an input from the user.

Steve

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Alicebot to control device

2008-05-23T07:40:03Z

Hello everyone!

I am an electronics engineering student from Indonesia. For my final
project, I have an idea to use Alicebot to control devices (using PLC
or microcontroller). I think this would be more fun, instead of
controlling them using 'conservative' switches.

I haven't developed the device yet. Because now I'm still learning
AIML, using Program D.

My questions are:
1. I see that Alice recognizes inactivity. But could Alice be
programmed to be 'proactive'? I mean, supposed we have thermal sensor,
with a critical temperature has been set. Whenever the temperature is
too hot, system sends a signal. Based on this signal, Alice will
shout, "Hey, your device is gonna blow! Do something!"
Could this be possible?
2. I dont know whether this is do-able within my time frame, but I'm
also interested to implement speech-to-text and text-to-speech. I've
read AliceTalker from Cloud Garden, which says that it is suitable for
Program D. But it last release seems too old. Does anyone here have
any experience using AliceTalker? Or may be there is better/newer
solution for this?

Thank you very much for your help in advance!!!

Best regards,

Ariyo
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Help - AIML for program D

2008-02-14T08:58:41Z

Hi,

I tried to run "program D" and add some AIML. However, I can not find the
AIML set for it (the WiKi page contains no .tar.gz file - it looks like empty links). Do you have an idea where I can download it ?

BTW - when I try to load the AIML in the The Annotated A.L.I.C.E. AIML - I get some parsing error..
What am I missing ?

Best Regards & thanks in advance for the help,

Daniel Kario.

Re: alicebot-developer Digest, Vol 13, Issue 3

2008-02-13T07:28:17Z

Ok, thanks.
I will still create a DTD using a new software I have made, because DTD is
more readable, specially to debug the actual french aiml files, which have
some xml bugs.
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> DTDs are not strong enough for validating AIML (due to the recursive
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> Hi there, I am working on a french version of AliceBot, and I wonder if
> there is a DTD to check aiml files before processing them ?
> The last DTD I found is in the document (1999) :
> http://www-lium.univ-lemans.fr/~lehuen/master2/dialogue/tp/aiml.pdf
> But the DTD doesn't match with the actual aiml english files.
> Thanks.
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> I made an AIML Schema a few years ago. Recently I've totally revamped
> it and I'll be publishing it soon. If you have expertise in this area
> and would be willing to look it over to help debug it before I release
> it, that would be great. (I'm hoping to embed a little bit of
> Schematron within it to handle a few AIML requirements that cannot be
> expressed in W3C Schema.)
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> Sam Fisher wrote:
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>>
>> I'm new to AIML, but am excited about getting into it. Is
>> there an AIML DTD or XSD file available somwhere?
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