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by Quentin Vieregge :: Rate this Message:

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Hello All,
      I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions of really excellent
ethnographic studies in Rhetoric and Composition that have come out in the
last couple years. Thanks for any suggestions. Best, Quentin Vieregge

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Quentin Vieregge
University of South Florida

Re: Advice of Ethnography

by Richard Haswell :: Rate this Message:

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Quentin,

"Ethnographic studies" is a nomadic term, all over the map. Could you narrow
it a bit for us?

Rich


On 10/7/08 10:28 AM, "Quentin Vieregge" <qvieregge@...> wrote:

> Hello All,
>       I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions of really excellent
> ethnographic studies in Rhetoric and Composition that have come out in the
> last couple years. Thanks for any suggestions. Best, Quentin Vieregge

Re: Advice of Ethnography

by Quentin Vieregge :: Rate this Message:

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I was thinking in terms of studies similar to the following
   "Border Talk: Writing and Knowing in the Two Year College" by Howard B
Tinberg
   "Storm in the Mountains" by James Moffett
    or "Symbiosis: Writing and an Academic Culture" by Kim Kipling and
Richard J. Murphy.


I'm looking for Qualitative studies in First Year Composition. Books that
present studies by telling stories of observation, especially ones that were
published in recent years.

I hope this clarifies my question.

 Best, Quentin Vieregge

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Richard Haswell <rhaswell@...>wrote:

> Quentin,
>
> "Ethnographic studies" is a nomadic term, all over the map. Could you
> narrow
> it a bit for us?
>
> Rich
>
>
> On 10/7/08 10:28 AM, "Quentin Vieregge" <qvieregge@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >       I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions of really excellent
> > ethnographic studies in Rhetoric and Composition that have come out in
> the
> > last couple years. Thanks for any suggestions. Best, Quentin Vieregge
>



--
Quentin Vieregge
University of South Florida

Re: Advice of Ethnography

by Michaud Michael :: Rate this Message:

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Not sure if this is what you mean, but you might try Russell Durst,  
_Collision Course_.

Michael J. Michaud, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of English
Rhode Island College
Providence, RI 02908
401-456-8661 • mmichaud@...

On Oct 7, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Quentin Vieregge wrote:

> I was thinking in terms of studies similar to the following
>   "Border Talk: Writing and Knowing in the Two Year College" by  
> Howard B
> Tinberg
>   "Storm in the Mountains" by James Moffett
>    or "Symbiosis: Writing and an Academic Culture" by Kim Kipling and
> Richard J. Murphy.
>
>
> I'm looking for Qualitative studies in First Year Composition. Books  
> that
> present studies by telling stories of observation, especially ones  
> that were
> published in recent years.
>
> I hope this clarifies my question.
>
> Best, Quentin Vieregge
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Richard Haswell <rhaswell@...
> >wrote:
>
>> Quentin,
>>
>> "Ethnographic studies" is a nomadic term, all over the map. Could you
>> narrow
>> it a bit for us?
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>> On 10/7/08 10:28 AM, "Quentin Vieregge" <qvieregge@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>      I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions of really  
>>> excellent
>>> ethnographic studies in Rhetoric and Composition that have come  
>>> out in
>> the
>>> last couple years. Thanks for any suggestions. Best, Quentin  
>>> Vieregge
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Vieregge
> University of South Florida

Teaching observations: Your advice sought

by Baotong Gu :: Rate this Message:

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Hi, All,
 
With the new school year well under way, we're beginning our yearly routine of teaching observations for and among TAs, VIs, and lecturers. Our usual practice is for the observer to write up a report on the observation, and the observed will include a copy of the observation report in their teacher portfolio.
 
Regarding such observations, I have a few questions I'd like to pick your collective brains on:
How often is your staff (TAs, lecturers, VIs) observed? Once a semester? Once a year?
What do you usually tell your TAs, your lecturers, and yourself to focus on during observations? I mean, besides the obvious, such as classroom activities, time management, teacher and student behavior, etc, is there something you specifically tell your people to look for?
What have you found to be effective uses of such observation reports?
Do you have an observation form that you've found to be effective and that you're willing to share?
I'd appreciate any feedback on or off list.
 
Many thanks in advance!
 
Gu
 
 
 
Baotong Gu, PhD  
************************************************************
Associate Professor
Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
Department of English
Georgia State University
Atlanta, Georgia
404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu 
************************************************************
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

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by Kevin Roozen :: Rate this Message:

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Quentin,

In terms of book-length ethnographic studies that focus on FYC or
undergraduate writing more broadly, you might consider the following.
Some might be older than what you're looking for, but they are key
pieces of ethnographic work on writing.

Elizabeth Chiseri-Strater's Academic Literacies
Marilyn Sternglass's Time to Know Them
Deborah Mutnick's Writing in an Alien World
Russell Durst's Collision Course
Lee Ann Carroll's Rehearsing New Roles
Herrington and Curtis's Persons in Process

There is also a rich body of ethnographic studies of literacy that
extend beyond the classroom and explore literate practice in a number of
communities.

Hope this helps,

Kevin




Kevin Roozen, Assistant Professor
English Department
9030 Haley Center
Auburn University
Auburn, AL 36849
334.844.9031

roozekr@...
http://www.auburn.edu/~roozekr
>>> Quentin Vieregge <qvieregge@...> 10/07/08 7:28 PM >>>
I was thinking in terms of studies similar to the following
   "Border Talk: Writing and Knowing in the Two Year College" by Howard
B
Tinberg
   "Storm in the Mountains" by James Moffett
    or "Symbiosis: Writing and an Academic Culture" by Kim Kipling and
Richard J. Murphy.


I'm looking for Qualitative studies in First Year Composition. Books
that
present studies by telling stories of observation, especially ones that
were
published in recent years.

I hope this clarifies my question.

 Best, Quentin Vieregge

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Richard Haswell
<rhaswell@...>wrote:

> Quentin,
>
> "Ethnographic studies" is a nomadic term, all over the map. Could you
> narrow
> it a bit for us?
>
> Rich
>
>
> On 10/7/08 10:28 AM, "Quentin Vieregge" <qvieregge@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >       I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions of really
excellent
> > ethnographic studies in Rhetoric and Composition that have come out
in
> the
> > last couple years. Thanks for any suggestions. Best, Quentin
Vieregge
>



--
Quentin Vieregge
University of South Florida

Re: Teaching observations: Your advice sought

by Susan McLeod :: Rate this Message:

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Baotong, see Christine Hult's book _Evaluating Teachers of Writing._  This
question has come up several times on the list before, so you might also
want to check the list archives: <https://lists.asu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=WPA-L>

Sue

--On Tuesday, October 7, 2008 9:01 PM -0400 Baotong Gu
<engbgu@...> wrote:

> Hi, All,
>
> With the new school year well under way, we're beginning our yearly
> routine of teaching observations for and among TAs, VIs, and lecturers.
> Our usual practice is for the observer to write up a report on the
> observation, and the observed will include a copy of the observation
> report in their teacher portfolio.
> Regarding such observations, I have a few questions I'd like to pick your
> collective brains on: How often is your staff (TAs, lecturers, VIs)
> observed? Once a semester? Once a year? What do you usually tell your
> TAs, your lecturers, and yourself to focus on during observations? I
> mean, besides the obvious, such as classroom activities, time management,
> teacher and student behavior, etc, is there something you specifically
> tell your people to look for? What have you found to be effective uses of
> such observation reports? Do you have an observation form that you've
> found to be effective and that you're willing to share? I'd appreciate
> any feedback on or off list.
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Gu
>
>
>
> Baotong Gu, PhD
> ************************************************************
> Associate Professor
> Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
> Department of English
> Georgia State University
> Atlanta, Georgia
> 404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu
> ************************************************************
> Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.



Susan H. McLeod, Research Professor
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.writing.ucsb.edu/faculty/mcleod.htm

Home address:
6358 Lambda Drive
San Diego, CA 92120

Re: Advice of Ethnography

by Erica Clayton :: Rate this Message:

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Quentin,

May I also suggest Roxanne Mountford's essay:

“Engendering Ethnography:  Insights from the Feminist Critique of Postmodern
    Ethnography.”  Ethics and Representation in Qualitative Studies of Literacy.  Ed. Gesa
    Kirsch and Peter Mortensen.   Urbana, IL:  National Council of Teachers of
    English, 1996.  205-27.

Best,

Erica Reynolds Clayton, PhD
Composition and Rhetoric
Director of the Writing Center

----- Original Message -----
From: Quentin Vieregge <qvieregge@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: Advice of Ethnography
To: WPA-L@...

> I was thinking in terms of studies similar to the following
>    "Border Talk: Writing and Knowing in the Two Year
> College" by Howard B
> Tinberg
>    "Storm in the Mountains" by James Moffett
>     or "Symbiosis: Writing and an Academic
> Culture" by Kim Kipling and
> Richard J. Murphy.
>
>
> I'm looking for Qualitative studies in First Year Composition.
> Books that
> present studies by telling stories of observation, especially
> ones that were
> published in recent years.
>
> I hope this clarifies my question.
>
>  Best, Quentin Vieregge
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Richard Haswell
> <rhaswell@...>wrote:
> > Quentin,
> >
> > "Ethnographic studies" is a nomadic term, all over the map.
> Could you
> > narrow
> > it a bit for us?
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> > On 10/7/08 10:28 AM, "Quentin Vieregge"
> <qvieregge@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >       I was wondering if
> anyone has any suggestions of really excellent
> > > ethnographic studies in Rhetoric and Composition that have
> come out in
> > the
> > > last couple years. Thanks for any suggestions. Best, Quentin
> Vieregge>
>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Vieregge
> University of South Florida

Re: Teaching observations: Your advice sought

by Bryan Bardine :: Rate this Message:

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Gu,

In our program at the University of Dayton I observe our TA's 2-3 times
during the school year and they have a teaching advisor who observes them
at least once a semester.  We have an observation form that we use that
guides our observers with general areas like Interaction with students,
Content of instruction, and Presentation.  For each section there are
several statements where observers will circle one of five
responses--strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, or strongly disagree.
There's also room to write responses on the observation form.  The
observers meet with the TA before and after the observation, and once the
observation is done, the observers write an evaluative letter which goes
to the student and will also be included in the student's file.  I can
share the observation form with you if you'd like.

I think the observations are important because we can look for changes
and/or improvement in what the TAs are doing in the classroom.  When I
observe the TAs they get copies of all the notes I took during the classes
I observed and a copy of the observation form itself.  I can look back at
old observation forms and notes to see if they may be making similar
mistakes or if they have addressed some issues that we talked about at
previous meetings.  Plus, the observations are a good way to get the
students used to having people in their classrooms--many of our TAs go on
to teach in high school or go on for Ph.Ds so being observed is a regular
part of the process.  Take care,

Bryan Bardine, Ph.D.
Director of TA Training
Interim Writing Program Director
Associate Professor of English
University of Dayton






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Hi, All,
 
With the new school year well under way, we're beginning our yearly
routine of teaching observations for and among TAs, VIs, and lecturers.
Our usual practice is for the observer to write up a report on the
observation, and the observed will include a copy of the observation
report in their teacher portfolio.
 
Regarding such observations, I have a few questions I'd like to pick your
collective brains on:
How often is your staff (TAs, lecturers, VIs) observed? Once a semester?
Once a year?
What do you usually tell your TAs, your lecturers, and yourself to focus
on during observations? I mean, besides the obvious, such as classroom
activities, time management, teacher and student behavior, etc, is there
something you specifically tell your people to look for?
What have you found to be effective uses of such observation reports?
Do you have an observation form that you've found to be effective and that
you're willing to share?
I'd appreciate any feedback on or off list.
 
Many thanks in advance!
 
Gu
 
 
 
Baotong Gu, PhD
************************************************************
Associate Professor
Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
Department of English
Georgia State University
Atlanta, Georgia
404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu 
************************************************************
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

Re: Teaching observations: Your advice sought

by Baotong Gu :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks, Sue, for the pointers.
 
Gu
 
 
Baotong Gu, PhD  
************************************************************
Associate Professor
Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
Department of English
Georgia State University
Atlanta, Georgia
404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu 
************************************************************
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.


>>> Susan McLeod <mcleod@...> 10/7/2008 9:38 PM >>>
Baotong, see Christine Hult's book _Evaluating Teachers of Writing._  This
question has come up several times on the list before, so you might also
want to check the list archives: <https://lists.asu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=WPA-L>

Sue

--On Tuesday, October 7, 2008 9:01 PM -0400 Baotong Gu
<engbgu@...> wrote:

> Hi, All,
>
> With the new school year well under way, we're beginning our yearly
> routine of teaching observations for and among TAs, VIs, and lecturers.
> Our usual practice is for the observer to write up a report on the
> observation, and the observed will include a copy of the observation
> report in their teacher portfolio.
> Regarding such observations, I have a few questions I'd like to pick your
> collective brains on: How often is your staff (TAs, lecturers, VIs)
> observed? Once a semester? Once a year? What do you usually tell your
> TAs, your lecturers, and yourself to focus on during observations? I
> mean, besides the obvious, such as classroom activities, time management,
> teacher and student behavior, etc, is there something you specifically
> tell your people to look for? What have you found to be effective uses of
> such observation reports? Do you have an observation form that you've
> found to be effective and that you're willing to share? I'd appreciate
> any feedback on or off list.
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Gu
>
>
>
> Baotong Gu, PhD
> ************************************************************
> Associate Professor
> Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
> Department of English
> Georgia State University
> Atlanta, Georgia
> 404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu 
> ************************************************************
> Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.



Susan H. McLeod, Research Professor
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.writing.ucsb.edu/faculty/mcleod.htm 

Home address:
6358 Lambda Drive
San Diego, CA 92120

Re: Teaching observations: Your advice sought

by Webster Garrett Erin L. :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I struggle with GTF observations:  how to be efficient in terms of my
time commitment and still give useful feedback that not only
acknowledges the good things the GTFs are doing but indicates concrete
suggestions for improvement, experimentation, and/or development.  Any
chance I could take a gander at the form you use?

Erin

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Bryan Bardine
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:47 AM
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Gu,

In our program at the University of Dayton I observe our TA's 2-3 times
during the school year and they have a teaching advisor who observes
them
at least once a semester.  We have an observation form that we use that
guides our observers with general areas like Interaction with students,
Content of instruction, and Presentation.  For each section there are
several statements where observers will circle one of five
responses--strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, or strongly
disagree.
There's also room to write responses on the observation form.  The
observers meet with the TA before and after the observation, and once
the
observation is done, the observers write an evaluative letter which goes

to the student and will also be included in the student's file.  I can
share the observation form with you if you'd like.

I think the observations are important because we can look for changes
and/or improvement in what the TAs are doing in the classroom.  When I
observe the TAs they get copies of all the notes I took during the
classes
I observed and a copy of the observation form itself.  I can look back
at
old observation forms and notes to see if they may be making similar
mistakes or if they have addressed some issues that we talked about at
previous meetings.  Plus, the observations are a good way to get the
students used to having people in their classrooms--many of our TAs go
on
to teach in high school or go on for Ph.Ds so being observed is a
regular
part of the process.  Take care,

Bryan Bardine, Ph.D.
Director of TA Training
Interim Writing Program Director
Associate Professor of English
University of Dayton






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Hi, All,
 
With the new school year well under way, we're beginning our yearly
routine of teaching observations for and among TAs, VIs, and lecturers.
Our usual practice is for the observer to write up a report on the
observation, and the observed will include a copy of the observation
report in their teacher portfolio.
 
Regarding such observations, I have a few questions I'd like to pick
your
collective brains on:
How often is your staff (TAs, lecturers, VIs) observed? Once a semester?

Once a year?
What do you usually tell your TAs, your lecturers, and yourself to focus

on during observations? I mean, besides the obvious, such as classroom
activities, time management, teacher and student behavior, etc, is there

something you specifically tell your people to look for?
What have you found to be effective uses of such observation reports?
Do you have an observation form that you've found to be effective and
that
you're willing to share?
I'd appreciate any feedback on or off list.
 
Many thanks in advance!
 
Gu
 
 
 
Baotong Gu, PhD
************************************************************
Associate Professor
Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
Department of English
Georgia State University
Atlanta, Georgia
404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu 
************************************************************
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

Re: Teaching observations: Your advice sought

by Baotong Gu :: Rate this Message:

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Hi, Bryan,
 
Thanks for the very informative post.
 
We use observations along very similar lines. One difference is that I don't personally observe all the TAs since we have more than 80 of them. They're divided into Professional Development Community groups of 7-8 people each. Each group is typically led by a faculty member and an experienced TA. The leaders of each group observe their TAs, who also observe each other.
 
We use a somewhat standard observation form, which consists of a bunch of open-ended questions. One thing I found reading the observation reports is that sometimes when one person is writing up reports for 4 or 5 TAs he/she has observed, some of the answers to a particular question tend to sound a little similar to one another from report to report. That prompted me to ask in my last email what observation forms/questions everybody was using to solicit informative answers. I personally add a section in my observation report where I document a minute-by-minute account of the important activities during the class period (well, not exactly minute by minute, but an account of what activities, from when to when, what went on, etc.). This gives readers a clear picture of how the instructor organized the class. I copied this from my graduate student days at Purdue.
 
I like your idea of providing specific statements where the observer can simply check one of the answers. That way, they can focus more on what's going on than figuring out what to say for a particular question. That, coupled with a chance to provide any comments they'd like, sounds a very efficient way of handling observations.
 
By the way, I'd love to get a copy of your observation form. You can email it to me at bgu@... if you don't mind. If anybody else on the list is willing to share their observation forms, I'd really appreciate it.
 
Thanks again for sharing.
 
Gu
 
 
 
Baotong Gu, PhD  
************************************************************
Associate Professor
Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
Department of English
Georgia State University
Atlanta, Georgia
404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu 
************************************************************
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.


>>> Bryan Bardine <Bryan.Bardine@...> 10/8/2008 8:47 AM >>>
Gu,

In our program at the University of Dayton I observe our TA's 2-3 times
during the school year and they have a teaching advisor who observes them
at least once a semester.  We have an observation form that we use that
guides our observers with general areas like Interaction with students,
Content of instruction, and Presentation.  For each section there are
several statements where observers will circle one of five
responses--strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, or strongly disagree.
There's also room to write responses on the observation form.  The
observers meet with the TA before and after the observation, and once the
observation is done, the observers write an evaluative letter which goes
to the student and will also be included in the student's file.  I can
share the observation form with you if you'd like.

I think the observations are important because we can look for changes
and/or improvement in what the TAs are doing in the classroom.  When I
observe the TAs they get copies of all the notes I took during the classes
I observed and a copy of the observation form itself.  I can look back at
old observation forms and notes to see if they may be making similar
mistakes or if they have addressed some issues that we talked about at
previous meetings.  Plus, the observations are a good way to get the
students used to having people in their classrooms--many of our TAs go on
to teach in high school or go on for Ph.Ds so being observed is a regular
part of the process.  Take care,

Bryan Bardine, Ph.D.
Director of TA Training
Interim Writing Program Director
Associate Professor of English
University of Dayton






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Hi, All,

With the new school year well under way, we're beginning our yearly
routine of teaching observations for and among TAs, VIs, and lecturers.
Our usual practice is for the observer to write up a report on the
observation, and the observed will include a copy of the observation
report in their teacher portfolio.

Regarding such observations, I have a few questions I'd like to pick your
collective brains on:
How often is your staff (TAs, lecturers, VIs) observed? Once a semester?
Once a year?
What do you usually tell your TAs, your lecturers, and yourself to focus
on during observations? I mean, besides the obvious, such as classroom
activities, time management, teacher and student behavior, etc, is there
something you specifically tell your people to look for?
What have you found to be effective uses of such observation reports?
Do you have an observation form that you've found to be effective and that
you're willing to share?
I'd appreciate any feedback on or off list.

Many thanks in advance!

Gu



Baotong Gu, PhD
************************************************************
Associate Professor
Director of Lower Division Studies (a.k.a. WPA)
Department of English
Georgia State University
Atlanta, Georgia
404-413-5845(O), bgu@..., http://www.rhetcomp.gsu.edu/~bgu 
************************************************************
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

Re: Teaching observations: Your advice sought

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Hi Susan,
I know it's a tad early to be thinking about C's. Should we make housing
reservations?
How is your son doing?

Best,
Margot

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