Add to address on send

[metamorph]

Is there a plugin to add an address on send?  

I have the add_address plugin which puts a link next received email (from) to add the address to the address book, but would like one on the compose page also.  Did I just overlook it or am I missing something?

SM 1.4.15, Apach2, PHP5

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.  

[Paul Lesniewski]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:13 PM, metamorph <brown2235a@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?

I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.  If
you do, you might need to ask for v1.7 from me offlist.

> I have the add_address plugin which puts a link next received email (from)
> to add the address to the address book, but would like one on the compose
> page also.  Did I just overlook it or am I missing something?

On the *compose* page?  There is no plugin that does that.

> SM 1.4.15, Apach2, PHP5
>
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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[Peter Slacik]

Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:13 PM, metamorph <brown2235a@...> wrote:
>  
>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>    
>
> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.

I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the
address is automatically added there.

I believe this is what metamorph meant.

Peter Slacik

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[metamorph]

Peter Slacik wrote:

Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:13 PM, metamorph <[e-mail]> wrote:
>  
>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>    
>
> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.

I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the
address is automatically added there.

I believe this is what metamorph meant.

Peter Slacik

Thanks Peter Slacik... that is exactly what I meant.
It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address is automatically added to the address book), since it is common on services like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.  Also, is this the correct way to post (I left the junk at the bottom), ie in-line posting?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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[Paul Lesniewski]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 6:13 AM, metamorph <brown2235a@...> wrote:

>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.
>>
>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
>> upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the
>> address is automatically added there.
>>
>> I believe this is what metamorph meant.
>>
>
> Thanks Peter Slacik... that is exactly what I meant.
> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending an email
> to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address is automatically
> added to the address book), since it is common on services like hotmail,
> gmail and yahoomail.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Please stop bottom-posting.  See my earlier mail about how to avoid this.

To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before.  So the
core would also need to be changed.  I have a change in mind for it,
so I can take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet -
free time is not abundant.

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[Fredrik Jervfors-4]

>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.
>>>
>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
>>> upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list,
>>> the address is automatically added there.
>>
>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending an
>> email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address is
>> automatically added to the address book), since it is common on services
>> like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I can
> take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free time is not
> abundant.

The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin Address
Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a third
party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could be
configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do as
Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions in
one plugin.

I wasn't aware of the need of a core change for this, but if Paul states
so I assume he's right (until proven wrong).

Sincerely,
Fredrik

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[Alan in Toronto-2]

On Thu, June 19, 2008 8:25 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:

>>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.
>>>>
>>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
>>>> upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list,
>>>> the address is automatically added there.
>>>
>>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending an
>>> email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address is
>>> automatically added to the address book), since it is common on services
>>> like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
>> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
>> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
>> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I can
>> take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free time is not
>> abundant.
>
> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin Address
> Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a third
> party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could be
> configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do as
> Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions in
> one plugin.

That would make it simpler for someone to decide which plugin to choose. I deleted
the core plugin abook_take and instead use "Address Add", because I prefer its
functionality. Address Add adds sender's name and address to the address book, while
core plugin abook_take adds only the address. IMHO, an address without a
corresponding name is less useful.







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[Paul Lesniewski]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Fredrik Jervfors
<jervfors@...> wrote:

>>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.
>>>>
>>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
>>>> upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list,
>>>> the address is automatically added there.
>>>
>>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending an
>>> email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address is
>>> automatically added to the address book), since it is common on services
>>> like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
>> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
>> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
>> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I can
>> take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free time is not
>> abundant.
>
> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin Address
> Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a third
> party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could be
> configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do as
> Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions in
> one plugin.

Yes, an idea whose time has come.  I will volunteer to take this on.

> I wasn't aware of the need of a core change for this, but if Paul states
> so I assume he's right (until proven wrong).

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[Fredrik Jervfors-4]

>>>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try
>>>>>> sent_confirmation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each
>>>>> time upon sending an email to any address not yet in the
>>>>> recipients list, the address is automatically added there.
>>>>
>>>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending
>>>> an email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address
>>>> is automatically added to the address book), since it is common on
>>>> services like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
>>> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
>>> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
>>> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I
>>> can take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free
>>> time is not abundant.
>>
>> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin
>> Address Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a
>> third party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
>> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
>> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could
>> be configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do
>> as Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
>> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions
>> in one plugin.
>
> Yes, an idea whose time has come.  I will volunteer to take this on.

Good! Don't forget to give it an entirely new name (long and short), so we
don't get mixed up support requests. (Just a reminder.)

>> I wasn't aware of the need of a core change for this, but if Paul
>> states so I assume he's right (until proven wrong).

I see that you've committed the fix. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Fredrik

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[Paul Lesniewski]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Fredrik Jervfors
<jervfors@...> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try
>>>>>>> sent_confirmation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each
>>>>>> time upon sending an email to any address not yet in the
>>>>>> recipients list, the address is automatically added there.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending
>>>>> an email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address
>>>>> is automatically added to the address book), since it is common on
>>>>> services like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
>>>> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
>>>> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
>>>> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I
>>>> can take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free
>>>> time is not abundant.
>>>
>>> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin
>>> Address Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a
>>> third party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
>>> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
>>> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could
>>> be configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do
>>> as Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
>>> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions
>>> in one plugin.
>>
>> Yes, an idea whose time has come.  I will volunteer to take this on.
>
> Good! Don't forget to give it an entirely new name (long and short), so we
> don't get mixed up support requests. (Just a reminder.)

Hmm, well I was considering adopting the best of the two if I couldn't
think of a better one.  "Address Add" isn't entirely bad.  What else
is there?

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[Alan in Toronto-2]

On Fri, June 20, 2008 1:49 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Fredrik Jervfors
> <jervfors@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try
>>>>>>>> sent_confirmation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each
>>>>>>> time upon sending an email to any address not yet in the
>>>>>>> recipients list, the address is automatically added there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending
>>>>>> an email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address
>>>>>> is automatically added to the address book), since it is common on
>>>>>> services like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
>>>>> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
>>>>> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
>>>>> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I
>>>>> can take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free
>>>>> time is not abundant.
>>>>
>>>> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin
>>>> Address Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a
>>>> third party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
>>>> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
>>>> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could
>>>> be configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do
>>>> as Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
>>>> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions
>>>> in one plugin.
>>>
>>> Yes, an idea whose time has come.  I will volunteer to take this on.
>>
>> Good! Don't forget to give it an entirely new name (long and short), so we
>> don't get mixed up support requests. (Just a reminder.)
>
> Hmm, well I was considering adopting the best of the two if I couldn't
> think of a better one.  "Address Add" isn't entirely bad.  What else
> is there?

If you want a unique name to avoid confusion with the earlier plugins, you could
call it something like: "Address Grab", or "Contact Add" since (I hope) it will add
not just the address but also the contact's name.





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[Paul Lesniewski]

>>>>> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin
>>>>> Address Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a
>>>>> third party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
>>>>> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
>>>>> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could
>>>>> be configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do
>>>>> as Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
>>>>> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions
>>>>> in one plugin.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, an idea whose time has come.  I will volunteer to take this on.
>>>
>>> Good! Don't forget to give it an entirely new name (long and short), so we
>>> don't get mixed up support requests. (Just a reminder.)
>>
>> Hmm, well I was considering adopting the best of the two if I couldn't
>> think of a better one.  "Address Add" isn't entirely bad.  What else
>> is there?
>
> If you want a unique name to avoid confusion with the earlier plugins, you could
> call it something like: "Address Grab", or "Contact Add" since (I hope) it will add
> not just the address but also the contact's name.

Any other ideas?

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[Fredrik Jervfors-4]

>>>>>> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned
>>>>>> plugin Address Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be
>>>>>> merged and become a third party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should
>>>>>> be removed from the core repository). Such a merged plugin could
>>>>>> also include the functionality requested in this thread. If
>>>>>> needed the various functionalities could be configurable as on
>>>>>> or off by the system administrator. Or we could do as Paul
>>>>>> suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
>>>>>>  although I personally would prefer to have all these similar
>>>>>> functions in one plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, an idea whose time has come.  I will volunteer to take this
>>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> Good! Don't forget to give it an entirely new name (long and
>>>> short), so we don't get mixed up support requests. (Just a
>>>> reminder.)
>>>
>>> Hmm, well I was considering adopting the best of the two if I
>>> couldn't think of a better one.  "Address Add" isn't entirely bad.
>>> What else
>>> is there?
>>
>> If you want a unique name to avoid confusion with the earlier plugins,
>> you could call it something like: "Address Grab", or "Contact Add" since
>> (I hope) it will add
>> not just the address but also the contact's name.
>
> Any other ideas?

Not really, although I prefer "Add Address" or "Add Contact" over the
reversed versions. If you're going to keep one of the old names, "Address
Add" is probably the one to use.

Sincerely,
Fredrik

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[Paul Lesniewski]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Alan in Toronto
<Alantoronto@...> wrote:

> On Thu, June 19, 2008 8:25 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>>>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
>>>>> upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list,
>>>>> the address is automatically added there.
>>>>
>>>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending an
>>>> email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address is
>>>> automatically added to the address book), since it is common on services
>>>> like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
>>> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
>>> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
>>> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I can
>>> take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free time is not
>>> abundant.
>>
>> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin Address
>> Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a third
>> party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
>> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
>> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could be
>> configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do as
>> Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
>> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions in
>> one plugin.
>
> That would make it simpler for someone to decide which plugin to choose. I deleted
> the core plugin abook_take and instead use "Address Add", because I prefer its
> functionality. Address Add adds sender's name and address to the address book, while
> core plugin abook_take adds only the address. IMHO, an address without a
> corresponding name is less useful.

I haven't dug into it yet, but IIRC, Address Take parses the message
body for email addresses - this means there isn't a very reliable way
to associate names with email addresses.  The To: and From: headers
are different, of course, as they have very specific format.

Sounds like "Add Address" might be the best new name.

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[Alan in Toronto-2]

On Mon, June 23, 2008 2:01 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Alan in Toronto
> <Alantoronto@...> wrote:
>> On Thu, June 19, 2008 8:25 am, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is there a plugin to add an address on send?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what you mean, but you might try sent_confirmation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did/do mostly use Netcsape Communictor and now SeaMonkey. Each time
>>>>>> upon sending an email to any address not yet in the recipients list,
>>>>>> the address is automatically added there.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems logical to have a plugin that would do this (upon sending an
>>>>> email to any address not yet in the recipients list, the address is
>>>>> automatically added to the address book), since it is common on services
>>>>> like hotmail, gmail and yahoomail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> To get this functionality, a new plugin would need to be written.
>>>> Additionally, address book lookups by email address are not currently
>>>> possible in SquirrelMail, which has been mentioned before. So the core
>>>> would also need to be changed. I have a change in mind for it, so I can
>>>> take on both tasks, but don't hold your breath just yet - free time is not
>>>> abundant.
>>>
>>> The core plugin "abook_take" and Jimmy Conner's abandoned plugin Address
>>> Add ("address_add") should, in my opinion, be merged and become a third
>>> party plugin (i.e. "abook_take" should be removed from the core
>>> repository). Such a merged plugin could also include the functionality
>>> requested in this thread. If needed the various functionalities could be
>>> configurable as on or off by the system administrator. Or we could do as
>>> Paul suggested and put the new functionality in a plugin of its own,
>>> although I personally would prefer to have all these similar functions in
>>> one plugin.
>>
>> That would make it simpler for someone to decide which plugin to choose. I deleted
>> the core plugin abook_take and instead use "Address Add", because I prefer its
>> functionality. Address Add adds sender's name and address to the address book,
>> while
>> core plugin abook_take adds only the address. IMHO, an address without a
>> corresponding name is less useful.
>
> I haven't dug into it yet, but IIRC, Address Take parses the message
> body for email addresses - this means there isn't a very reliable way
> to associate names with email addresses.

Ah yes, I'd forgotten that it could take addresses from message body. I rarely use
that feature.

> The To: and From: headers are different, of course,
> as they have very specific format.

That's the functionality that I, and my few users, really use. I would like any
replacement plugin to be capable of grabbing both sender's name and address.







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