AVG

[Brian Gray]

I would second that but I suspect it may not be necessary to
uninstall first.  I have a recollection that one of the installation
options after a download may be to restore a damaged system. I have
been using AVG for a good few years and been very satisfied - when
first installed it found a few problems in messages I had sidelined
as suspicious.  As I have a home network using both W98 and XP I now
have to use one of the paid-for copies of 7.5 but have found the
e-mail support service included in the price very helpful for the
occasional problem.
Brian

Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@...> wrote
Subject: [OM] Re: OT - anti virus / spyware programs

No such problems here.  I'd suggest you uninstall AVG and then reinstall
from a fresh download.  Possibly some damage in your installed copy
which could have happened either pre or post-installation.  Even if the
computer's bit error rate is an extremely small number we move an
extremely large number of bits these days.

Chuck Norcutt

Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote:
 > Anyone having trouble with AVG v.8 Free ?
 >
 > An error mssg window warns me once every 3 or four launches from its
 > icon at the desktop (direct access) that user interface didn't load
 > properly and the app must close, politely asking if I wish to send a
 > report to Microsoft.
 > Only way to correct this AFAIK, is to restart computer. Sometimes,
 > rarely I find it may launch without restarting.
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[Fernando Gonzalez Gentile]

Ooooppsss !!

http://www.grisoft.com/ww.support-app

Shall try this first, just to test reliability and just for fun too.

Thanks, Brian.


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case is running repair installation of your AVG:

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      it to start the installation process.
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Brian Gray wrote:

> I would second that but I suspect it may not be necessary to
> uninstall first.  I have a recollection that one of the installation
> options after a download may be to restore a damaged system. I have
> been using AVG for a good few years and been very satisfied - when
> first installed it found a few problems in messages I had sidelined
> as suspicious.  As I have a home network using both W98 and XP I now
> have to use one of the paid-for copies of 7.5 but have found the
> e-mail support service included in the price very helpful for the
> occasional problem.
> Brian
>  

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[Brent-26]

Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting  
semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time to  
fix / use them?

Got the comment last night "Another camera??? But none of the ones you  
bought work anyway!"

I guess I might be a bit odd, but when I get time I actually like  
pulling the old vintage cameras apart and trying to fix them... then  
running a film through to see what I get, forcing myself to work with  
all the weird old technology and learn it along with making all the  
mistakes.  I don't often get good results from the really old gear  
(except for from my OM gear which is finally getting into a fairly  
decent state of repair), but they're improving and there's always the  
chance of a rare shot which works perfectly.

Composing / imagining the end photograph, getting out there with the  
sole intention of capturing images, it's almost like meditation.  Same  
thing with fixing the cameras.  I'm not particularly good at it, but  
trying to figure it out and learning as I go is a welcome relief from  
the pressures of work and life.  In a way the actual resulting  
photographs are secondary... a bit like fishing - the ritual of  
preparation, being out on the water etc is to me more important than  
actually catching fish (not that I've done any fishing in recent  
history).

The frustrating thing is that because work and family take up so much  
time, I tend to collect the various camera bodies and never get the  
time to spend fixing them, and extremely rarely get the time to  
dedicate purely to using them.  So I end up with a rather mournful  
hoard of semi-functioning camera gear.

Anyway, my wife doesn't get it... she doesn't get fishing either for  
that matter.

Wondering if there's anyone out to commiserate, or am I just odd?
 

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[Moose-2]

Brent wrote:
> Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time to fix / use them?
>  
Nope. but then, it's my money and time, not hers. She does some things
with her time and money that I wouldn't, but I think that's her
business, too. Since neither of us works at a regular, high hours, away
from home job, we still have lots of time for those things we enjoy
together.

I personally think that time on one's own, doing what one enjoys, makes
one a better, more fully engaged partner when together.
> Got the comment last night "Another camera??? But none of the ones you bought work anyway!"
>  
Quite a few of mine work, maybe even a majority. :-)
> I guess I might be a bit odd, but when I get time I actually like pulling the old vintage cameras apart and trying to fix them...
I'm enjoying digital photography. About the one drawback is that the
incentive to do all the OM repair/rebuild projects is much weaker. I
have a couple of unused OM-1 replacement tops, a few  ;-) bodies, some
OM-10s for prisms, etc. I was going to assemble a couple of really nice,
black OM-1 bodies...

Then there's 2-3 lens projects. And I've acquired a couple of Oly Sixes
with complementary issues in hopes of combining them to make a nice one.
> then running a film through to see what I get, forcing myself to work with all the weird old technology and learn it along with making all the mistakes.  I don't often get good results from the really old gear  
> (except for from my OM gear which is finally getting into a fairly decent state of repair), but they're improving and there's always the chance of a rare shot which works perfectly.
>  
I keep saying I'm going to do that with an Oly Six. Since I recently
acquired the ability to scan MF, I have less excuse not to...
> Composing / imagining the end photograph, getting out there with the sole intention of capturing images, it's almost like meditation.
I agree. Going out with an OM-1 with single 50mm lens or a fixed focal
length small film camera is like that. I wouldn't want to do it as my
main photography, though.
> Same thing with fixing the cameras.  I'm not particularly good at it, but trying to figure it out and learning as I go is a welcome relief from the pressures of work and life.  
I find something very satisfying about working on mechanical devices,
especially when they get better as a result. Fortunately, I have very
little work and life pressure to recover from.
> In a way the actual resulting photographs are secondary...
Yup.
> a bit like fishing - the ritual of preparation, being out on the water etc is to me more important than  
> actually catching fish (not that I've done any fishing in recent history).
>  
That one doesn't work for me. I'm perfectly capable of doing nothing
effectively around water without all the equipment and preparation.
Cheaper and more effective meditation for me.
> The frustrating thing is that because work and family take up so much time, I tend to collect the various camera bodies and never get the time to spend fixing them, and extremely rarely get the time to dedicate purely to using them.  So I end up with a rather mournful hoard of semi-functioning camera gear.
>  
Mournful? No, hopeful.
> Anyway, my wife doesn't get it... she doesn't get fishing either for that matter.
>  
Does she have to? If so, Why? She should have things to do that you
don't get. Maybe you should hint about how you need to find room for a
big model railroad set-up? ;-)
> Wondering if there's anyone out to commiserate, or am I just odd?
>  
Odd is good, in my book. but if it helps, I'll bet there are even more
camera boneyards owned by people on this list than have been admitted to.

A. Commiserate Moose

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[Ken Norton]

>Nope. but then, it's my money and time, not hers. She does some things
>with her time and money that I wouldn't, but I think that's her
>business, too. Since neither of us works at a regular, high hours, away
?from home job, we still have lots of time for those things we enjoy
>together.

Isn't that what "hobbies" are all about?  They aren't supposed to make
sense.


>I find something very satisfying about working on mechanical devices,
>especially when they get better as a result. Fortunately, I have very
>little work and life pressure to recover from.

Maybe someday.  For now, I'm still racing the rats.

>Does she have to? If so, Why? She should have things to do that you
>don't get. Maybe you should hint about how you need to find room for a
>big model railroad set-up? ;-)

Man, you hit upon another unfullfilled hobby/interest of mine.  I have a
large cardboard box of trainset stuff that keeps getting moved from one
house to the next....

>Odd is good, in my book. but if it helps, I'll bet there are even more
>camera boneyards owned by people on this list than have been admitted to.

Hmm.  But mine are truely boneyards of deceased bits of camera kit which I
killled.  Yes, I did FINALLY properly dispose of Sollie.

AG

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[Chuck Norcutt-2]

Tell her to be happy that you're only out there fondling... the gear. :-)

Chuck Norcutt

Brent wrote:

> Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting  
> semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time to  
> fix / use them?
>
> Got the comment last night "Another camera??? But none of the ones you  
> bought work anyway!"
>
> I guess I might be a bit odd, but when I get time I actually like  
> pulling the old vintage cameras apart and trying to fix them... then  
> running a film through to see what I get, forcing myself to work with  
> all the weird old technology and learn it along with making all the  
> mistakes.  I don't often get good results from the really old gear  
> (except for from my OM gear which is finally getting into a fairly  
> decent state of repair), but they're improving and there's always the  
> chance of a rare shot which works perfectly.
>
> Composing / imagining the end photograph, getting out there with the  
> sole intention of capturing images, it's almost like meditation.  Same  
> thing with fixing the cameras.  I'm not particularly good at it, but  
> trying to figure it out and learning as I go is a welcome relief from  
> the pressures of work and life.  In a way the actual resulting  
> photographs are secondary... a bit like fishing - the ritual of  
> preparation, being out on the water etc is to me more important than  
> actually catching fish (not that I've done any fishing in recent  
> history).
>
> The frustrating thing is that because work and family take up so much  
> time, I tend to collect the various camera bodies and never get the  
> time to spend fixing them, and extremely rarely get the time to  
> dedicate purely to using them.  So I end up with a rather mournful  
> hoard of semi-functioning camera gear.
>
> Anyway, my wife doesn't get it... she doesn't get fishing either for  
> that matter.
>
> Wondering if there's anyone out to commiserate, or am I just odd?
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[Ian Manners-2]

Hi Brent,

> Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting  
> semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time to  
> fix / use them?

Gee, I've got 7 OM bodies here now that I've got from eboyed on the
cheap that I keep meaning to look at to :-)

Seriously though, my wife is allowed to buy as much lingerie as she
wants in exchange for me buying as much camera gear as I want,
I think thats a fair trade :o)

Cheers
Ian Manners
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[Moose-2]

Ian Manners wrote:
>> Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting  semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time to fix / use them?
>>    
> Gee, I've got 7 OM bodies here now that I've got from eboyed on the cheap that I keep meaning to look at to :-)
>  
Is that all?
> Seriously though, my wife is allowed to buy as much lingerie as she wants in exchange for me buying as much camera gear as I want,
> I think thats a fair trade :o)
>  
One often has to strip down the cameras to get the best results, as well.

Moose

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[Brent-26]

:-)

At this point work colleagues are wondering why I'm laughing at my  
computer!

Thanks for your advice everyone, I feel more comfortable in my oddness  
now... and think that the lingerie method has all the hallmarks of a  
win-win scenario...

I long for a time of life where I'll be able to slow down a bit.  Have  
only been married a few years and I guess we're still finding that  
balance - throw a 2 year old in the mix and a high pressure job, and  
time on my own with my cameras seems like a pipe dream sometimes.

Brent

P.S. My dad had a whole room dedicated to an electric train set when I  
was little!

On 22/07/2008, at 1:53 PM, Moose wrote:

Ian Manners wrote:
>> Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting  
>> semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time  
>> to fix / use them?
>>
> Gee, I've got 7 OM bodies here now that I've got from eboyed on the  
> cheap that I keep meaning to look at to :-)
>
Is that all?
> Seriously though, my wife is allowed to buy as much lingerie as she  
> wants in exchange for me buying as much camera gear as I want,
> I think thats a fair trade :o)
>
One often has to strip down the cameras to get the best results, as  
well.

Moose

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[Nathan Wajsman-2]

Well, you are odd but in a harmless kind of way, and you should tell  
your wife that compared to some other hobbies you might take up, this  
is not very expensive (I assume you don't pay very much for those semi-
working cameras). Just threaten to take up high-end audio or golf--the  
latter is a particularly effective threat, since not only is the  
equipment expensive but you also have to spend a lot of time away from  
home to indulge in it.

Nathan

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On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:36 AM, Brent wrote:

>
> Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting
> semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time to
> fix / use them?
>
> Got the comment last night "Another camera??? But none of the ones you
> bought work anyway!"
>
> I guess I might be a bit odd, but when I get time I actually like
> pulling the old vintage cameras apart and trying to fix them... then
> running a film through to see what I get, forcing myself to work with
> all the weird old technology and learn it along with making all the
> mistakes.  I don't often get good results from the really old gear
> (except for from my OM gear which is finally getting into a fairly
> decent state of repair), but they're improving and there's always the
> chance of a rare shot which works perfectly.
>
> Composing / imagining the end photograph, getting out there with the
> sole intention of capturing images, it's almost like meditation.  Same
> thing with fixing the cameras.  I'm not particularly good at it, but
> trying to figure it out and learning as I go is a welcome relief from
> the pressures of work and life.  In a way the actual resulting
> photographs are secondary... a bit like fishing - the ritual of
> preparation, being out on the water etc is to me more important than
> actually catching fish (not that I've done any fishing in recent
> history).
>
> The frustrating thing is that because work and family take up so much
> time, I tend to collect the various camera bodies and never get the
> time to spend fixing them, and extremely rarely get the time to
> dedicate purely to using them.  So I end up with a rather mournful
> hoard of semi-functioning camera gear.
>
> Anyway, my wife doesn't get it... she doesn't get fishing either for
> that matter.
>
> Wondering if there's anyone out to commiserate, or am I just odd?
>
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[Andrew Fildes]

Can I get mine releathered - does Morgan Sparks do black lace covers?
Andrew Fildes
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On 22/07/2008, at 1:53 PM, Moose wrote:

> One often has to strip down the cameras to get the best results, as  
> well.



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[Andrew Fildes]

That's not necessarily a threat.
Just take up the drums instead.
A basic kit isn't too expensive but the impact is significant.
Andrew Fildes
afildes@...



On 22/07/2008, at 3:30 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> but you also have to spend a lot of time away from
> home to indulge in it.



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[Moose-2]

Brent wrote:
> :-)
>
> ...
>
> I long for a time of life where I'll be able to slow down a bit.  Have only been married a few years and I guess we're still finding that balance - throw a 2 year old in the mix and a high pressure job, and time on my own with my cameras seems like a pipe dream sometimes.
>  
I advise living and enjoying the time of life you are in. Looking
forward to other things means missing living.

I'm certainly enjoying retirement and having the kids out on their own.
But I suspect part of the enjoyment is what came before. The hobbies and
projects will keep until, magically, time for them shows up. By then,
your interests may have changed - or not.
> Brent
>
> P.S. My dad had a whole room dedicated to an electric train set when I was little!
>  
All the better! Let the wife know how much you have always looked
forward to the same thing. Start trying on engineers hats and coveralls.
Soon the cameras will be lookin' good. :-)

Moose

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[Moose-2]

Ken Norton wrote:
> ... Isn't that what "hobbies" are all about? They aren't supposed to
> make sense.
That's what I think, too.

>> I find something very satisfying about working on mechanical devices, especially when they get better as a result. Fortunately, I have very little work and life pressure to recover from.
>>    
> Maybe someday.  For now, I'm still racing the rats.
>  
What do you use for the "rabbit"?

>> Does she have to? If so, Why? She should have things to do that you don't get. Maybe you should hint about how you need to find room for a big model railroad set-up? ;-)
>>    
> Man, you hit upon another unfullfilled hobby/interest of mine.  I have a large cardboard box of trainset stuff that keeps getting moved from one house to the next....
>  
There are a certain number of avocations that are quite common here on
the list. Trains, big and/or small, are always a good bet.

>> Odd is good, in my book. but if it helps, I'll bet there are even more camera boneyards owned by people on this list than have been admitted to.
>>    
> Hmm.  But mine are truely boneyards of deceased bits of camera kit which I killled.
Yeah, you aren't a collector/hoarder like many of us. But then I never
"got" the train thing. And I can never figure out golf either. My father
loved it, even though disk problems left him out of actual play for most
of his life. And both my sons play. A walk through meadows and trees
without equipment, competition or fees is much nicer to me.
> Yes, I did FINALLY properly dispose of Sollie.
>  
Oh, that's nice.

Moose

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[Ken Norton]

>
> Can I get mine releathered - does Morgan Sparks do black lace covers?


I was going to see if he'd do a snakeskin for my E-1.  The rubbers are
starting to slip.

Boy, is this going downhill fast.

AG


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[Jon Mitchell-3]

<snip>

Does anybody else get in trouble from their partner for collecting  
semi-functional cameras off *Bay... and then never having the time to  
fix / use them?

Got the comment last night "Another camera??? But none of the ones you  
bought work anyway!"
</snip>

Exactly the same here, but substitute old obsolete Audio/Video gear for
Cameras.  She calls it "Jon's Museum of Sh*te".  DCC, MD, CED, LD,
BetaMax, and the funky PCM box that allowed digital recording on
BetaMax, LPs, Reel-to-Reel .... the list goes on.  As long as there's an
eb*y, there's a mug like me to buy old stuff that no-one else wants ;-)

This list just attracts people like us.  That's why I feel so at home
here amongst my fellow "collectors".

Jon





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The nice thing about cameras is that they can usually be fixed and brought  
back to life.  Spouses with a bad attitude toward their  partners passion (or
obsession) are another matter altogether.   Next!  <{B^)  Bill Barber
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2008 4:58:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jon@... writes:

Got the  comment last night "Another camera??? But none of the ones you  
bought work anyway!"





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