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ANN/RFC: package providing TAB completion for readline-based RAnnouncement:
(For those every-once-in-a-while occasions when you run R from a terminal instead of Emacs, and then wish something would happen when you hit TAB...) Last week, I started looking at the GNU Readline documentation to see if I could figure out how to use it for command completion within R. It turned out to be easier than I had expected, and I now have a beta version of the 'rcompletion' package available at http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~deepayan/R/rcompletion_0.0-6.tar.gz >From the help page: Description: This package provides pseudo-intelligent TAB completion for a readline enabled instance of R when it is run from a terminal (or more specifically, an interface which uses readline to accept user input). It has no effect on the various GUI interfaces to R, including ESS and the standard Windows interface. For more details, install and load the package, then type package?rcompletion at the R prompt. Testing and feedback would be appreciated. Feature requests and patches are also welcome, of course. Questions: There are a couple of things about which I would like some advice: (1) The package currently contains a very rudimentary configure script which stops installation when readline is not found. I'm not sure if this is portable enough. .../src/unix/sys-std.c has more sophisticated conditional directives, but I don't know enough about this sort of thing to interpret those. Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be appreciated. (2) What's the recommended procedure to distribute this, given that (a) it's not relevant on Windows (i.e. won't do anything even if it could be installed) and (b) may or may not be relevant on Macs, some of which apparently have a fake readline that doesn't support completion? -Deepayan ______________________________________________ R-devel@... mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel |
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Re: ANN/RFC: package providing TAB completion for readline-based ROn 23 October 2006 at 16:51, Deepayan Sarkar wrote: [... nice announcement trimmed ...] | There are a couple of things about which I would like some advice: | | (1) The package currently contains a very rudimentary configure script | which stops installation when readline is not found. I'm not sure if | this is portable enough. .../src/unix/sys-std.c has more sophisticated | conditional directives, but I don't know enough about this sort of | thing to interpret those. Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be | appreciated. littler has the same issue for getopt, R itself, R as a dynamic library, .... So far, we are going with 'just bark and stop'. For rcompletion, I hope you simply stick with configure. I don't like the trend of shipping everything again and again (Hi, Seth :) | (2) What's the recommended procedure to distribute this, given that | (a) it's not relevant on Windows (i.e. won't do anything even if it | could be installed) and (b) may or may not be relevant on Macs, some | of which apparently have a fake readline that doesn't support | completion? Again, I also wondered if littler should just pretend to be a CRAN package so that at least the update and compile mechanism works from R (given how we need re-runs of configure and make if something changes as we depend on compile-time 'hard' settings for littler as opposed to env. vars for R). The problem we are facing is that we're unsure how to get to /usr/(local/)/bin from update.packages() ... Given that you'll undoubtedly come up with something clever, Jeff and I will be sure to see if we can mimic it :) Dirk -- Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something. -- Thomas A. Edison ______________________________________________ R-devel@... mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel |
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Re: ANN/RFC: package providing TAB completion for readline-based ROn 10/23/06, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@...> wrote:
> > On 23 October 2006 at 16:51, Deepayan Sarkar wrote: > [... nice announcement trimmed ...] > | There are a couple of things about which I would like some advice: > | > | (1) The package currently contains a very rudimentary configure script > | which stops installation when readline is not found. I'm not sure if > | this is portable enough. .../src/unix/sys-std.c has more sophisticated > | conditional directives, but I don't know enough about this sort of > | thing to interpret those. Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be > | appreciated. > > littler has the same issue for getopt, R itself, R as a dynamic library, > .... So far, we are going with 'just bark and stop'. > > For rcompletion, I hope you simply stick with configure. I don't like the > trend of shipping everything again and again (Hi, Seth :) > > | (2) What's the recommended procedure to distribute this, given that > | (a) it's not relevant on Windows (i.e. won't do anything even if it > | could be installed) and (b) may or may not be relevant on Macs, some > | of which apparently have a fake readline that doesn't support > | completion? > > Again, I also wondered if littler should just pretend to be a CRAN package so > that at least the update and compile mechanism works from R (given how we > need re-runs of configure and make if something changes as we depend on > compile-time 'hard' settings for littler as opposed to env. vars for R). > > The problem we are facing is that we're unsure how to get to > /usr/(local/)/bin from update.packages() ... > > Given that you'll undoubtedly come up with something clever, Jeff and > I will be sure to see if we can mimic it :) Well, rcompletion is a proper package, the only issue is that it's platform / environment dependent. I know there are other such packages, I just don't know how they are dealt with. I don't see how you can get around the /usr/bin problem for littler, except by asking the user to manually do something like ln -s /path/to/library/littler/bin/r /usr/local/bin/ which at least wouldn't have to be repeated on further upgrades if you detect that the link exists. -Deepayan ______________________________________________ R-devel@... mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel |
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Re: ANN/RFC: package providing TAB completion for readline-based RDeepayan Sarkar wrote: > Announcement: > > (For those every-once-in-a-while occasions when you run R from a > terminal instead of Emacs, and then wish something would happen when > you hit TAB...) > > Last week, I started looking at the GNU Readline documentation to see > if I could figure out how to use it for command completion within R. > It turned out to be easier than I had expected, and I now have a beta > version of the 'rcompletion' package available at > > http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~deepayan/R/rcompletion_0.0-6.tar.gz > >>From the help page: > > Description: > > This package provides pseudo-intelligent TAB completion for a > readline enabled instance of R when it is run from a terminal (or > more specifically, an interface which uses readline to accept user > input). It has no effect on the various GUI interfaces to R, > including ESS and the standard Windows interface. > > For more details, install and load the package, then type > > package?rcompletion > > at the R prompt. Testing and feedback would be appreciated. Feature > requests and patches are also welcome, of course. > > > Questions: > > There are a couple of things about which I would like some advice: > > (1) The package currently contains a very rudimentary configure script > which stops installation when readline is not found. I'm not sure if > this is portable enough. .../src/unix/sys-std.c has more sophisticated > conditional directives, but I don't know enough about this sort of > thing to interpret those. Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be > appreciated. > > (2) What's the recommended procedure to distribute this, given that > (a) it's not relevant on Windows (i.e. won't do anything even if it > could be installed) and (b) may or may not be relevant on Macs, some > of which apparently have a fake readline that doesn't support > completion? Distribution can happen regularly as a CRAN package. I will put it on my exclude list in order not to try building Windows binaries in that case. Uwe > -Deepayan > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel@... mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel ______________________________________________ R-devel@... mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel |
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Re: ANN/RFC: package providing TAB completion for readline-based ROn Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Uwe Ligges wrote:
> > > Deepayan Sarkar wrote: >> Announcement: >> >> (For those every-once-in-a-while occasions when you run R from a >> terminal instead of Emacs, and then wish something would happen when >> you hit TAB...) >> >> Last week, I started looking at the GNU Readline documentation to see >> if I could figure out how to use it for command completion within R. >> It turned out to be easier than I had expected, and I now have a beta >> version of the 'rcompletion' package available at >> >> http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~deepayan/R/rcompletion_0.0-6.tar.gz >> >>> From the help page: >> >> Description: >> >> This package provides pseudo-intelligent TAB completion for a >> readline enabled instance of R when it is run from a terminal (or >> more specifically, an interface which uses readline to accept user >> input). It has no effect on the various GUI interfaces to R, >> including ESS and the standard Windows interface. >> >> For more details, install and load the package, then type >> >> package?rcompletion >> >> at the R prompt. Testing and feedback would be appreciated. Feature >> requests and patches are also welcome, of course. >> >> >> Questions: >> >> There are a couple of things about which I would like some advice: >> >> (1) The package currently contains a very rudimentary configure script >> which stops installation when readline is not found. I'm not sure if >> this is portable enough. .../src/unix/sys-std.c has more sophisticated >> conditional directives, but I don't know enough about this sort of >> thing to interpret those. Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be >> appreciated. I don't think that is safe. You can have R installed with readline support even if there are neither readline headers nor library on the current machine (use a static library), and R can be run without readline (via --no-readline) even if it is installed. However, your configure script fails on my machine (x86_64 FC5). It seems that you need both to get LDFLAGS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH from R and use them, and also use a version of autoconf that knows about lib64 (since the readline DSO is in /usr/lib64). Since I don't get any further I am not sure what really happens, but it seems you don't link your DLL against -lreadline, and I think you need to to allow for static libreadline.a (the relevant code seems to be a separate .o and so is likely not linked into R in that case). I guess that you want to know that R was installed with readline support at install time, and is running with the readline console? It is not immediately obvious to me that either is currently known to a package writer/user. >> (2) What's the recommended procedure to distribute this, given that >> (a) it's not relevant on Windows (i.e. won't do anything even if it >> could be installed) and (b) may or may not be relevant on Macs, some >> of which apparently have a fake readline that doesn't support >> completion? > > > Distribution can happen regularly as a CRAN package. I will put it on my > exclude list in order not to try building Windows binaries in that case. I think there should also be a configure.win which explains that the package is not usable on Windows, in case someone tries to install from the sources. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@... Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 ______________________________________________ R-devel@... mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel |
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Re: ANN/RFC: package providing TAB completion for readline-based ROn 10/24/06, Prof Brian Ripley <ripley@...> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Uwe Ligges wrote: [...] > >> Questions: > >> > >> There are a couple of things about which I would like some advice: > >> > >> (1) The package currently contains a very rudimentary configure script > >> which stops installation when readline is not found. I'm not sure if > >> this is portable enough. .../src/unix/sys-std.c has more sophisticated > >> conditional directives, but I don't know enough about this sort of > >> thing to interpret those. Any thoughts or suggestions on this would be > >> appreciated. > > I don't think that is safe. You can have R installed with readline > support even if there are neither readline headers nor library on the > current machine (use a static library), and R can be run without readline > (via --no-readline) even if it is installed. I don't think the last case is a problem; nothing useful will happen after loading the package in that case, but nothing bad will happen either. If there's no readline library, is there anything the configure script can reasonably do other than abort? If the library is there but the headers aren't, I can probably use headers included in the package. Is that a reasonable approach? I have no idea what to do with a static library. > However, your configure script fails on my machine (x86_64 FC5). Fails in what sense? Does it abort saying it didn't find readline? > It seems > that you need both to get LDFLAGS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH from R and use them, > and also use a version of autoconf that knows about lib64 (since the > readline DSO is in /usr/lib64). Since I don't get any further I am not > sure what really happens, but it seems you don't link your DLL against > -lreadline, and I think you need to to allow for static libreadline.a (the > relevant code seems to be a separate .o and so is likely not linked into R > in that case). I have modified configure.in to add a -lreadline to PKG_LIBS, and also to use header files from within the package if the system headers are not found. The new version is at http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~deepayan/R/rcompletion_0.0-7.tar.gz I'm working on a 64 bit system, so I'm hoping autoconf knows what to do there. I'm not sure how to get or use LDFLAGS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH from R. R CMD config LDFLAGS does give me something (but I'm not sure what to do with it), but there doesn't seem to be anything analogous to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. > I guess that you want to know that R was installed with readline support > at install time, and is running with the readline console? It is not > immediately obvious to me that either is currently known to a package > writer/user. I don't think that's as much of an issue. If R doesn't ever make a call to readline(), whether the rcompletion package is loaded or not won't make any difference. The user won't get the benefits, but that's a choice made by the user. For example, running R through ESS and then loading rcompletion doesn't have any effect at all. The one scenario that definitely needs to be avoided is where R CMD INSTALL appears to install the package successfully and then library(rcompletion) causes an error (either immediately on load or later). Unless anyone reports seeing that, I'll plan to upload this to CRAN in a few days. Cases where configure aborts even though it shouldn't will probably need some time (and help) to work out, since I'm completely new to autotools. > >> (2) What's the recommended procedure to distribute this, given that > >> (a) it's not relevant on Windows (i.e. won't do anything even if it > >> could be installed) and (b) may or may not be relevant on Macs, some > >> of which apparently have a fake readline that doesn't support > >> completion? > > > > > > Distribution can happen regularly as a CRAN package. I will put it on my > > exclude list in order not to try building Windows binaries in that case. > > I think there should also be a configure.win which explains that the > package is not usable on Windows, in case someone tries to install from > the sources. If configure.win doesn't exist, would it try to use configure? In that case, installation should just abort when readline isn't found, shouldn't it? Would having a configure.win serve any additional purpose? -Deepayan ______________________________________________ R-devel@... mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel |
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