1.1.0 and distro method

[Matthew McNaney]

Hello all,

First off, thank you for the bug reports and feature requests for 1.1.0
RC. Some features were left out so I could get a release out. I need to
take a few days to work on a university project, then I will get back to
feature requests. Global logins, categories, and file cabinet are my
first priority.

I'd like for everyone to take a look at the following:
https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4180330

It discusses the distro method of phpwebsite 1.x. I'd like a decided
upon standard for release. Please discuss the issue there so we can get
people outside the list into it.

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[Verdon Vaillancourt-3]

I'm just curious about the rationale and the inspiration for the menu  
template.

I'm more used to styling lists for these things and find all the  
nestled divs unfamiliar and awkward. It doesn't help that my little  
personal library of favourite techniques and methods for menus pretty  
much all deal with lists. I suppose the divs are needed for the ajax  
stuff?

Anywise, if this is a standard menu building and templating method of  
some sort that I am not aware, I would appreciate it if anyone knew  
of any reference material or examples of how to style to achieve fly-
outs or other displays.

regards,
verdon


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[Matthew McNaney]

That's just happens to be how I got it work. The divs allow the mouse
over menu to appear like it does. There may be a better way.

If someone can supply a cleaner version I will gladly make it the
default template and style for menu.

Matt

On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 15:11 -0500, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote:

> I'm just curious about the rationale and the inspiration for the menu  
> template.
>
> I'm more used to styling lists for these things and find all the  
> nestled divs unfamiliar and awkward. It doesn't help that my little  
> personal library of favourite techniques and methods for menus pretty  
> much all deal with lists. I suppose the divs are needed for the ajax  
> stuff?
>
> Anywise, if this is a standard menu building and templating method of  
> some sort that I am not aware, I would appreciate it if anyone knew  
> of any reference material or examples of how to style to achieve fly-
> outs or other displays.
>
> regards,
> verdon
>
>
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[Verdon Vaillancourt-3]

Cool, thanks. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something  
basic :)
verdon


On 28-Feb-07, at 3:48 PM, Matthew McNaney wrote:

> That's just happens to be how I got it work. The divs allow the mouse
> over menu to appear like it does. There may be a better way.
>
> If someone can supply a cleaner version I will gladly make it the
> default template and style for menu.
>
> Matt
>
> On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 15:11 -0500, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote:
>> I'm just curious about the rationale and the inspiration for the menu
>> template.
>>
>> I'm more used to styling lists for these things and find all the
>> nestled divs unfamiliar and awkward. It doesn't help that my little
>> personal library of favourite techniques and methods for menus pretty
>> much all deal with lists. I suppose the divs are needed for the ajax
>> stuff?
>>
>> Anywise, if this is a standard menu building and templating method of
>> some sort that I am not aware, I would appreciate it if anyone knew
>> of any reference material or examples of how to style to achieve fly-
>> outs or other displays.
>>
>> regards,
>> verdon
>>
>>
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[Shaun Murray]

I've not looked yet so I'm shooting from the hip a bit here, but it'd  
be a pity if it doesn't work with lists. There's an awful lot of  
examples out there on how to make menus using lists. It's deeply  
ingrained in a CSS designers toolkit.


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[Matthew McNaney]

Originally it was but I couldn't get the floats the way I wanted. Since
you were able to refine the control panel perhaps you'd like a crack at
the menu as well? :)

Matt

On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 21:29 +0000, Shaun Murray wrote:

> I've not looked yet so I'm shooting from the hip a bit here, but it'd  
> be a pity if it doesn't work with lists. There's an awful lot of  
> examples out there on how to make menus using lists. It's deeply  
> ingrained in a CSS designers toolkit.
>
>
> Shaun
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[Shaun Murray]

On 1 Mar 2007, at 13:15, Matthew McNaney wrote:

> Originally it was but I couldn't get the floats the way I wanted.  
> Since
> you were able to refine the control panel perhaps you'd like a  
> crack at
> the menu as well? :)

Ooh, Gauntlet slapped down. Gauntlet picked up.

I'll have a look sometime next week after I've finished up with  
0.10.3 and phpwsBB.


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[Verdon Vaillancourt-3]

On 1-Mar-07, at 8:58 AM, Shaun Murray wrote:

>
> On 1 Mar 2007, at 13:15, Matthew McNaney wrote:
>
>> Originally it was but I couldn't get the floats the way I wanted.
>> Since
>> you were able to refine the control panel perhaps you'd like a
>> crack at
>> the menu as well? :)
>
> Ooh, Gauntlet slapped down. Gauntlet picked up.
>
> I'll have a look sometime next week after I've finished up with
> 0.10.3 and phpwsBB.

I'm having visions of that Bugs Bunny episode where Yosamite Sam  
throws down the gauntlet and Bugs picks it up, fills it with a brick,  
and accepts the challenge ;)

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[Verdon Vaillancourt-2]

I've been looking at the menu a bit and I think the challenge is going
to be more than just the tpl files. I suspect it might be possible to
get the floats for the admin ajaxy stuff to work, in a list, by making
the <li>'s display:block... but I think the bigger issue is that a
menu in an expanded shape won't render as a nestled list and that is
important for most styling techniques as well as being semantically
correct.

I.E.

This is good...

<ul>
 <li>Level One Item</li>
 <li>Level One Item
       <ul>
            <li>Level Two Item</li>
            <li>Level Two Item
                  <ul>
                      <li>Level Three Item</li>
                   </ul>
               </li>
            <li>Level Two Item</li>
            <li>Level Two Item</li>
       </ul>
      </li>
 <li>Level One Item</li>
 <li>Level One Item</li>
</ul>

This is not...

<ul>
 <li class="menu-level1">Level One Item</li>
 <li class="menu-level1">Level One Item</li>
 <li class="menu-level2">Level Two Item</li>
 <li class="menu-level2">Level Two Item</li>
 <li class="menu-level3">Level Three Item</li>
 <li class="menu-level2">Level Two Item</li>
 <li class="menu-level1">Level One Item</li>
 <li class="menu-level1">Level One Item</li>
</ul>

I've looked at /mod/menu/class/Menu_Link.php and it looks like there's
some capacity for child links, but I couldn't quite figure out how or
if that was being used. I think the site_map function is getting
right, but again, I've only had a really quick look.

Anywise, just some food for thought.
verdon


On 3/1/07, Shaun Murray <shaun@...> wrote:

>
> On 1 Mar 2007, at 13:15, Matthew McNaney wrote:
>
> > Originally it was but I couldn't get the floats the way I wanted.
> > Since
> > you were able to refine the control panel perhaps you'd like a
> > crack at
> > the menu as well? :)
>
> Ooh, Gauntlet slapped down. Gauntlet picked up.
>
> I'll have a look sometime next week after I've finished up with
> 0.10.3 and phpwsBB.
>
>
> Shaun

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