Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Raab <
andreas.raab@...> writes:
>
> Andreas> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>> This would be my question as well. What *is* missing?
>
> Andreas> Short answer? The release manager.
>
> OK, but that release manager will be asking the same question
> I'm now asking. So how do I get the answer?
To be clear, I think the release manager should know what a proper
Squeak release looks like. Otherwise how does he know what he's working
towards? But anyway, the pieces that are missing are:
1) A Mac VM: John has said that the latest that should be used is this:
ftp://ftp.smalltalkconsulting.com/Squeak%203.8.18beta3U.app.zip
Can someone just copy it into
http://ftp.squeak.org/3.10/mac ?
2) Pre-packaged versions. For easy installation there should be
per-platform packages like these:
http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/win/Squeak3.9-win32.zip http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/mac/Squeak3.9-7067mac.zip http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak3.9-final-7067.zipThese packages need to include:
- A suitable VM for the platform
- The image and changes
- The sources file
Basically everything a noob needs to get started and that can be linked
from Squeak.org as a single download.
3) Suitable welcome information inside the release. Check out
http://ftp.squeak.org/3.6/Squeak3.6-5429-full.zip for what this can look
like - in 3.6 there is a whole bunch of interesting stuff to explore
which makes it interesting and engaging (and sadly I will add that 3.6
full is *smaller* than 3.10 basic). [some might consider this point
finished and I wouldn't hold the release because of it but it seems very
hard these days to explain to anyone who downloads Squeak what's cool
about it]
4) Suitable welcome information for people poking around in the download
site. In other words a README letting people know what to find where.
> In other words, how do we know we aren't done with 3.10 yet?
By simulating a noob. Try this: If you'd go to Squeak.org and wanted to
install Squeak either for the first time or for upgrading, what would
you need? The above points all directly relate to that question.
Cheers,
- Andreas
