[petals-se-orchestra] some questions

[Jérémie Doucy]

Hello,
I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I create some complex chains.
So I have some questions :
- I need to chain services with the same interface. So I define a Partner Link for this interface (for this port type). But I need to define which service of this interface I call, in other words, I need to assign a service to a partner link. I found some documentation on how doing this with BPEL :

<assign>
 <copy>
  <from>
   <EndpointReference xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
   <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>

   <ServiceName
     xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
   </EndpointReference>
  </from>
  <to variable="partnerReference"/>

 </copy>
</assign>

- What's the better way to manage exceptions with orchestra?


thanks in advance
cheers
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EADS Defence and Security Systems
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[Nicolas Salatge - EBM WebSourcing]

    Hi Jérémie,

    I think that will be better to ask these questions on the mailing
list of orchestra (http://forge.objectweb.org/mail/?group_id=266).
They will able to explain better than me.

    Nicolas.

Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

> Hello,
> I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I create some complex
> chains.
> So I have some questions :
> - I need to chain services with the same interface. So I define a
> Partner Link for this interface (for this port type). But I need to
> define which service of this interface I call, in other words, I need
> to assign a service to a partner link. I found some documentation on
> how doing this with BPEL :
> <assign>
>  <copy>
>   <from>
>    <EndpointReference xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
>    <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>
>
>    <ServiceName
>      xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
>    </EndpointReference>
>   </from>
>   <to variable="partnerReference"/>
>
>  </copy>
> </assign>
>
>
> - What's the better way to manage exceptions with orchestra?
>
>
> thanks in advance
> cheers
> --
> Jérémie Doucy
> Information Processing Competence Center (IPCC)
> EADS Defence and Security Systems
> http://weblab-project.org 

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[Jérémie Doucy]

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I post on orchestra list without any response, so I come back here.
I just need to know if it's possible now to select what endpoint is going to be called when you invoke a partner link, because in the partner link we just precise the interface (port type) and not the service or the endpoint.

Thanks in advance.

2008/4/17, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...>:

  Hi Jérémie,

  I think that will be better to ask these questions on the mailing list of orchestra (http://forge.objectweb.org/mail/?group_id=266).
They will able to explain better than me.

  Nicolas.

Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

Hello,
I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I create some complex chains.
So I have some questions :
- I need to chain services with the same interface. So I define a Partner Link for this interface (for this port type). But I need to define which service of this interface I call, in other words, I need to assign a service to a partner link. I found some documentation on how doing this with BPEL :
<assign>
 <copy>
 <from>
  <EndpointReference xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
  <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>

  <ServiceName
    xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
  </EndpointReference>
 </from>
 <to variable="partnerReference"/>

 </copy>
</assign>


- What's the better way to manage exceptions with orchestra?


thanks in advance
cheers
--
Jérémie Doucy
Information Processing Competence Center (IPCC)
EADS Defence and Security Systems
http://weblab-project.org

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[Nicolas Salatge - EBM WebSourcing]

Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
> I post on orchestra list without any response,
Sorry, but as they are developed the orchestra kernel, they could answer
you more efficiently than me.

> so I come back here.
No problem.
> I just need to know if it's possible now to select what endpoint is
> going to be called when you invoke a partner link, because in the
> partner link we just precise the interface (port type) and not the
> service or the endpoint.
In the example that you give below, you set an endpoint reference in the
process. I'm not sure that this functionnality is currently implemented
in orchestra but you can test it.

Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no services or
endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint corresponding to the
interface following  the loadbalancing strategy defined in PEtALS
configuration.

>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 2008/4/17, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...
> <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>:
>
>       Hi Jérémie,
>
>       I think that will be better to ask these questions on the
>     mailing list of orchestra
>     (http://forge.objectweb.org/mail/?group_id=266).
>     They will able to explain better than me.
>
>       Nicolas.
>
>     Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
>
>         Hello,
>         I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I create some
>         complex chains.
>         So I have some questions :
>         - I need to chain services with the same interface. So I
>         define a Partner Link for this interface (for this port type).
>         But I need to define which service of this interface I call,
>         in other words, I need to assign a service to a partner link.
>         I found some documentation on how doing this with BPEL :
>         <assign>
>          <copy>
>          <from>
>           <EndpointReference
>         xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
>           <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>
>
>           <ServiceName
>            
>         xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
>           </EndpointReference>
>          </from>
>          <to variable="partnerReference"/>
>
>          </copy>
>         </assign>
>
>
>         - What's the better way to manage exceptions with orchestra?
>
>
>         thanks in advance
>         cheers
>         --
>         Jérémie Doucy
>         Information Processing Competence Center (IPCC)
>         EADS Defence and Security Systems
>         http://weblab-project.org
>
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[Jérémie Doucy]

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Hello,
you wrote this :

Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no services or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint corresponding to the interface following  the loadbalancing strategy defined in PEtALS configuration.

I'm completely agree with you, but how can I precise a service or an endpoint in the wsdl partner, could a partner be linked to something else than a port type (interface in jbi) ?

thanks in advance

2008/4/21, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...>:

Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

I post on orchestra list without any response,

Sorry, but as they are developed the orchestra kernel, they could answer you more efficiently than me.

so I come back here.

No problem.

I just need to know if it's possible now to select what endpoint is going to be called when you invoke a partner link, because in the partner link we just precise the interface (port type) and not the service or the endpoint.

In the example that you give below, you set an endpoint reference in the process. I'm not sure that this functionnality is currently implemented in orchestra but you can test it.

Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no services or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint corresponding to the interface following  the loadbalancing strategy defined in PEtALS configuration.

Thanks in advance.

2008/4/17, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@... <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>:

     Hi Jérémie,

     I think that will be better to ask these questions on the
   mailing list of orchestra
   (http://forge.objectweb.org/mail/?group_id=266).
   They will able to explain better than me.

     Nicolas.

   Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

       Hello,
       I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I create some
       complex chains.
       So I have some questions :
       - I need to chain services with the same interface. So I
       define a Partner Link for this interface (for this port type).
       But I need to define which service of this interface I call,
       in other words, I need to assign a service to a partner link.
       I found some documentation on how doing this with BPEL :
       <assign>
        <copy>
        <from>
         <EndpointReference
       xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
         <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>

         <ServiceName
                 xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
         </EndpointReference>
        </from>
        <to variable="partnerReference"/>

        </copy>
       </assign>


       - What's the better way to manage exceptions with orchestra?


       thanks in advance
       cheers
       --        Jérémie Doucy
       Information Processing Competence Center (IPCC)
       EADS Defence and Security Systems
       http://weblab-project.org





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[Nicolas Salatge - EBM WebSourcing]

Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

> Hello,
> you wrote this :
>
> Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no services
> or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint corresponding
> to the interface following  the loadbalancing strategy defined in
> PEtALS configuration.
>
> I'm completely agree with you, but how can I precise a service or an
> endpoint in the wsdl partner,

You can precise the service and the endpoint in the wsdl of the partner

in a classical way,
for example, in the loan approval demo in PEtALs, the service partner
"Approval"  is defined in the wsdl partner:

  <service name="approvalServiceBP">
    <port name="approvalPort" binding="tns:approvalBinding">
      <soap:address location="approvalEndpoint"/>
    </port>
  </service>

and the approvalEndpoint is the JBI endpoint.

> could a partner be linked to something else than a port type
> (interface in jbi) ?
Why?

and what is the "something else" ?

>
> thanks in advance
>
> 2008/4/21, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...
> <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>:
>
>     Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
>
>         I post on orchestra list without any response,
>
>     Sorry, but as they are developed the orchestra kernel, they could
>     answer you more efficiently than me.
>
>         so I come back here.
>
>     No problem.
>
>         I just need to know if it's possible now to select what
>         endpoint is going to be called when you invoke a partner link,
>         because in the partner link we just precise the interface
>         (port type) and not the service or the endpoint.
>
>     In the example that you give below, you set an endpoint reference
>     in the process. I'm not sure that this functionnality is currently
>     implemented in orchestra but you can test it.
>
>     Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no
>     services or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint
>     corresponding to the interface following  the loadbalancing
>     strategy defined in PEtALS configuration.
>
>
>         Thanks in advance.
>
>         2008/4/17, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>>:
>
>
>              Hi Jérémie,
>
>              I think that will be better to ask these questions on the
>            mailing list of orchestra
>            (http://forge.objectweb.org/mail/?group_id=266).
>            They will able to explain better than me.
>
>              Nicolas.
>
>            Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
>
>                Hello,
>                I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I create
>         some
>                complex chains.
>                So I have some questions :
>                - I need to chain services with the same interface. So I
>                define a Partner Link for this interface (for this port
>         type).
>                But I need to define which service of this interface I
>         call,
>                in other words, I need to assign a service to a partner
>         link.
>                I found some documentation on how doing this with BPEL :
>                <assign>
>                 <copy>
>                 <from>
>                  <EndpointReference
>                xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
>                  <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>
>
>                  <ServiceName
>                        
>          xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
>                  </EndpointReference>
>                 </from>
>                 <to variable="partnerReference"/>
>
>                 </copy>
>                </assign>
>
>
>                - What's the better way to manage exceptions with
>         orchestra?
>
>
>                thanks in advance
>                cheers
>                --        Jérémie Doucy
>                Information Processing Competence Center (IPCC)
>                EADS Defence and Security Systems
>                http://weblab-project.org
>
>
>
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[Jérémie Doucy]

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Hello, and thanks for your response.

In fact I just need to know if there is a way to precise this service name is for this partner link, because, for me, the port type is not enough.

Thanks in advance.

2008/4/22, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...>:

Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

Hello,
you wrote this :

Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no services or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint corresponding to the interface following  the loadbalancing strategy defined in PEtALS configuration.

I'm completely agree with you, but how can I precise a service or an endpoint in the wsdl partner,

You can precise the service and the endpoint in the wsdl of the partner in a classical way,
for example, in the loan approval demo in PEtALs, the service partner "Approval"  is defined in the wsdl partner:

 <service name="approvalServiceBP">
  <port name="approvalPort" binding="tns:approvalBinding">
    <soap:address location="approvalEndpoint"/>
  </port>
 </service>

and the approvalEndpoint is the JBI endpoint.

could a partner be linked to something else than a port type (interface in jbi) ?

Why?

and what is the "something else" ?

thanks in advance

2008/4/21, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@... <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>:

   Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

       I post on orchestra list without any response,

   Sorry, but as they are developed the orchestra kernel, they could
   answer you more efficiently than me.

       so I come back here.

   No problem.

       I just need to know if it's possible now to select what
       endpoint is going to be called when you invoke a partner link,
       because in the partner link we just precise the interface
       (port type) and not the service or the endpoint.

   In the example that you give below, you set an endpoint reference
   in the process. I'm not sure that this functionnality is currently
   implemented in orchestra but you can test it.

   Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no
   services or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint
   corresponding to the interface following  the loadbalancing
   strategy defined in PEtALS configuration.


       Thanks in advance.

       2008/4/17, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...
       <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>
       <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...
       <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>>:


            Hi Jérémie,

            I think that will be better to ask these questions on the
          mailing list of orchestra
          (http://forge.objectweb.org/mail/?group_id=266).
          They will able to explain better than me.

            Nicolas.

          Jérémie Doucy a écrit :

              Hello,
              I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I create
       some
              complex chains.
              So I have some questions :
              - I need to chain services with the same interface. So I
              define a Partner Link for this interface (for this port
       type).
              But I need to define which service of this interface I
       call,
              in other words, I need to assign a service to a partner
       link.
              I found some documentation on how doing this with BPEL :
              <assign>
               <copy>
               <from>
                <EndpointReference
              xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
                <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>

                <ServiceName
                              xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
                </EndpointReference>
               </from>
               <to variable="partnerReference"/>

               </copy>
              </assign>


              - What's the better way to manage exceptions with
       orchestra?


              thanks in advance
              cheers
              --        Jérémie Doucy
              Information Processing Competence Center (IPCC)
              EADS Defence and Security Systems
              http://weblab-project.org





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[Nicolas Salatge - EBM WebSourcing]

Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
> Hello, and thanks for your response.
>
> In fact I just need to know if there is a way to precise this service
> name is for this partner link, because, for me, the port type is not
> enough.
In an invoke tag defined in the BPEL 2.0 specification, only the
portType (that is optional) and the partnerLink are precised. There are
not serviceName attribute.

>
> Thanks in advance.
> 2008/4/22, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...
> <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>:
>
>     Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
>
>         Hello,
>         you wrote this :
>
>         Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no
>         services or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an
>         endpoint corresponding to the interface following  the
>         loadbalancing strategy defined in PEtALS configuration.
>
>         I'm completely agree with you, but how can I precise a service
>         or an endpoint in the wsdl partner,
>
>     You can precise the service and the endpoint in the wsdl of the
>     partner in a classical way,
>     for example, in the loan approval demo in PEtALs, the service
>     partner "Approval"  is defined in the wsdl partner:
>
>      <service name="approvalServiceBP">
>       <port name="approvalPort" binding="tns:approvalBinding">
>         <soap:address location="approvalEndpoint"/>
>       </port>
>      </service>
>
>     and the approvalEndpoint is the JBI endpoint.
>
>         could a partner be linked to something else than a port type
>         (interface in jbi) ?
>
>     Why?
>
>     and what is the "something else" ?
>
>
>
>
>         thanks in advance
>
>         2008/4/21, Nicolas SALATGE <nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>>:
>
>
>            Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
>
>                I post on orchestra list without any response,
>
>            Sorry, but as they are developed the orchestra kernel, they
>         could
>            answer you more efficiently than me.
>
>                so I come back here.
>
>            No problem.
>
>                I just need to know if it's possible now to select what
>                endpoint is going to be called when you invoke a
>         partner link,
>                because in the partner link we just precise the interface
>                (port type) and not the service or the endpoint.
>
>            In the example that you give below, you set an endpoint
>         reference
>            in the process. I'm not sure that this functionnality is
>         currently
>            implemented in orchestra but you can test it.
>
>            Nevertheless, if in the wsdl of your partner, you precise no
>            services or endpoints, PEtALS chooses automatically an endpoint
>            corresponding to the interface following  the loadbalancing
>            strategy defined in PEtALS configuration.
>
>
>                Thanks in advance.
>
>                2008/4/17, Nicolas SALATGE
>         <nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>
>                <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>
>                <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>
>                <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...
>         <mailto:nicolas.salatge@...>>>>:
>
>
>                     Hi Jérémie,
>
>                     I think that will be better to ask these questions
>         on the
>                   mailing list of orchestra
>                   (http://forge.objectweb.org/mail/?group_id=266).
>                   They will able to explain better than me.
>
>                     Nicolas.
>
>                   Jérémie Doucy a écrit :
>
>                       Hello,
>                       I use the orchestra engine since few weeks and I
>         create
>                some
>                       complex chains.
>                       So I have some questions :
>                       - I need to chain services with the same
>         interface. So I
>                       define a Partner Link for this interface (for
>         this port
>                type).
>                       But I need to define which service of this
>         interface I
>                call,
>                       in other words, I need to assign a service to a
>         partner
>                link.
>                       I found some documentation on how doing this
>         with BPEL :
>                       <assign>
>                        <copy>
>                        <from>
>                         <EndpointReference
>                      
>         xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing">
>                         <Address>unitedLoanEndpoint1</Address>
>
>                         <ServiceName
>                                      
>         xmlns:ns1="http://services.otn.com">ns1:UnitedLoan</ServiceName>
>                         </EndpointReference>
>                        </from>
>                        <to variable="partnerReference"/>
>
>                        </copy>
>                       </assign>
>
>
>                       - What's the better way to manage exceptions with
>                orchestra?
>
>
>                       thanks in advance
>                       cheers
>                       --        Jérémie Doucy
>                       Information Processing Competence Center (IPCC)
>                       EADS Defence and Security Systems
>                       http://weblab-project.org
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