[Fwd: Meeting Minutes from Monday 10th March 2008.]

[Alexander Hansen-2]

Addendum (Alexander):

I started working in earnest on the tracker at a time when I was at a
workplace where I had a Mac desktop, as well as access to a Mac
notebook.  And there were several months where I used a Mac at home to
handle it while I was unemployed.  Under those circumstances the
time-consuming aspect of dragging package descriptions off of it and
stashing them in a Fink tree were less noticeable than currently--where
I either have to use sshfs from a Linux box (my laptop now) or via a web
browser under X11 forwarding.

A major portion of the validation lag is the use of builds in a clean
environment to try to catch missing dependencies, since only a single
build can be performed per Fink tree.  I've worked up a methodology,
using the buildfink scripts, that package submitters or others could run
to verify that packages do in fact build on a clean system without
disrupting their ordinary Fink tree.  If they were to compare with a
build on an "unclean" system, that would also help locate
non-identicality in the build.  

A tracking system that could handle large log files could be handy in
this regard.  The package submitter, or another tester, could submit the
log file and save a developer validation build cycle.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Meeting Minutes from Monday 10th March 2008.
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:41:35 +0000
From: David H. <dmalloc@...>
To: Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.hansen@...>



Location: DimDim Meeting Board
Attendees: Alexander Hansen, David Hoehn

Topic: General purpose meeting between Alexander and myself to
determine how we can motivate the community better to submit and help
with the tracker validation.

Alexander and I agree that using the tracker is cumbersome and that
the tracker is actually more of a burden rather than a help. Our idea
would be to use something like:
http://www.simpleticket.net/?page_id=9 SimpleTicket or
http://bestpractical.com/rt/ Request Tracker to offer a better user
experience in the submission process.

Alexander and agree that we need to actively encourage people to have
a look at how they can help with validation:
This will be achieved by creating a easy to follow step-by-step list
of common things one should do for validation. Alexander has already
started with this.

Alexander and I agree that we need to counter the perception in the
community that Fink is dead and we are not really working on it
anymore. This should be done through more frequent communication,
which plays into the Fink Blog idea I mentioned in channel.

The duration was about 20 minutes, we agreed that we should strive for
bi-weekly meetings where we all can come together to discuss matters.
Dim dim seems well suited, except for audio issues Peter had.

-d

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