[Fwd: Braille music transcription using MusicXml]

[Bruno Mascret]

Hi all (and especially Mario),

Looking at some project on the net we found freedots, and I was happy to
see that Mario is taking part in this project.

A few weeks ago I wrote a mail about Nat braille
(http://natbraille.free.fr, sources at https://svn.liris.cnrs.fr/nat).
We already began implementing xslt transformations to produce braille
from musicXml.
I wonder if we could share our work, or working together in braille
music transcription.

Are you using the same kind of technologies?

Best regards,
Bruno

[Mario Lang]

HI Bruno.

First of all, sorry that my answer took me so long,
but I was away for a month of vacation on Jamaica.

Bruno Mascret <bmascret@...> writes:

> Hi all (and especially Mario),
>
> Looking at some project on the net we found freedots, and I was happy
> to see that Mario is taking part in this project.

Actually, FreeDots was started by myself and for now, I am
the only developer...

> A few weeks ago I wrote a mail about Nat braille
> (http://natbraille.free.fr, sources at https://svn.liris.cnrs.fr/nat).
> We already began implementing xslt transformations to produce braille
> from musicXml.
> I wonder if we could share our work, or working together in braille
> music transcription.

Thats a very good idea.  I didn't know about nat.
A quick look at your sources has two discouraging points for
me personally though: I dislike Java, and your usage of french words
in programming code makes it hard for me to understand, since I dont speak
french.

FreeDots is written in pure Python.  It can already transcribe
MusicXML to braille music (many things are missing, but its
already very useful to myself), has a GUI for navigating the
resulting Braille on Linux, and even includes useful things
like playback of the whole file, or individual braille music
symbols via the editing window.  A recent rewrite of the
musicxml backend module now allows me to even do edits
of musicxml files and save them back out to disk, which will be
useful when fixing errors in MusicXML comming from
optical music recognition programs.

> Are you using the same kind of technologies?
Yes, MusicXML and braille music.
But I wont touch Java with a ten food pole :-)

I am very happy to cooperate, especially since the topic of
transcribing braille music is pretty complicated and maybe too
much for a single person to handle fully in a reasonable time-frame.

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[Bruno Mascret]

Hi Mario,

I was away for two weeks and I just returned ;-)

Firstly, thanks for your answer!

I think java isn't not a big problem, because the core of the
transcription part works with xsl transformations.
A student of me is working during holidays to improve the music part of
NAT. So my proposal is to let him finish is work, then I 'll put English
translation to make the code more readable for no French speakers (I
know it could be a big problem, but at first I only wanted to perform
French Braille translations... But the case of music is universal ;-)).

I had a look at your software which works fine with what it is able to
do. We could begin with simple share of point of view/ experience, it
seems to be a good first step.

Maybe the rest of the list isn't interested with too much technical
details? Should we continue here or in private conversations?

Best regards,
Bruno

PS: I 'll released nat as a debian package at the end of october, with a
strong support of French mathematics and French grade 1; the music part
should be a first contribution but not a fully functional one...

Mario Lang wrote:

> HI Bruno.
>
> First of all, sorry that my answer took me so long,
> but I was away for a month of vacation on Jamaica.
>
> Bruno Mascret <bmascret@...> writes:
>
>> Hi all (and especially Mario),
>>
>> Looking at some project on the net we found freedots, and I was happy
>> to see that Mario is taking part in this project.
>
> Actually, FreeDots was started by myself and for now, I am
> the only developer...
>
>> A few weeks ago I wrote a mail about Nat braille
>> (http://natbraille.free.fr, sources at https://svn.liris.cnrs.fr/nat).
>> We already began implementing xslt transformations to produce braille
>> from musicXml.
>> I wonder if we could share our work, or working together in braille
>> music transcription.
>
> Thats a very good idea.  I didn't know about nat.
> A quick look at your sources has two discouraging points for
> me personally though: I dislike Java, and your usage of french words
> in programming code makes it hard for me to understand, since I dont speak
> french.
>
> FreeDots is written in pure Python.  It can already transcribe
> MusicXML to braille music (many things are missing, but its
> already very useful to myself), has a GUI for navigating the
> resulting Braille on Linux, and even includes useful things
> like playback of the whole file, or individual braille music
> symbols via the editing window.  A recent rewrite of the
> musicxml backend module now allows me to even do edits
> of musicxml files and save them back out to disk, which will be
> useful when fixing errors in MusicXML comming from
> optical music recognition programs.
>
>> Are you using the same kind of technologies?
> Yes, MusicXML and braille music.
> But I wont touch Java with a ten food pole :-)
>
> I am very happy to cooperate, especially since the topic of
> transcribing braille music is pretty complicated and maybe too
> much for a single person to handle fully in a reasonable time-frame.
>

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