(gnome-)power-manager

[Tomas Safarik]

Hi,

I'd like to ask (or consider it as suggestion) if developers of g-p-m
ever tought about idea of making g-m-p more like network-manager. I mean
having independent daemon and set of clients for gnome, kde, console
etc. i was thinking abut this recently and also previous Dan's email
reminded me this.

Right now I'm using pbbuttonsd for making the work (because it can
suspend my iBook G4 and g-p-m cannot (as I wrote in one of my previous
emails)) and having g-p-m for it's nice artwork and notifications. I'm
not also sure if g-p-m would work if I would not have running
gnome-session or X at all.


Thanks

Tomas
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[Arnaud Quette]

2008/2/25, Tomáš Šafařík <safarik@...>:
> Hi,
>
>  I'd like to ask (or consider it as suggestion) if developers of g-p-m
>  ever tought about idea of making g-m-p more like network-manager. I mean
>  having independent daemon and set of clients for gnome, kde, console
>  etc. i was thinking abut this recently and also previous Dan's email
>  reminded me this.

seconded+++
This is not the first time I see such a request, and it would make the
life easier for our KDE / Xfce / <insert your prefered WM / env
here...>

Moreover, this would also:
- federate the various FLOSS PM effort, and gather more resource to
work on this,
- solve the UPS support problem for Integrated Power Management on
servers (so console only).
Well I don't see the need for console support apart from the above, or
possibly resurrecting an old laptop as a "headless" server...

Maybe logging a feature request in the tracker would help.

Arnaud
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[jeff cai]

On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 09:22 +0100, Tomáš Šafařík wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to ask (or consider it as suggestion) if developers of g-p-m
> ever tought about idea of making g-m-p more like network-manager. I mean
> having independent daemon and set of clients for gnome, kde, console
> etc. i was thinking abut this recently and also previous Dan's email
> reminded me this.

>
> Right now I'm using pbbuttonsd for making the work (because it can
> suspend my iBook G4 and g-p-m cannot (as I wrote in one of my previous
> emails)) and having g-p-m for it's nice artwork and notifications. I'm
> not also sure if g-p-m would work if I would not have running
> gnome-session or X at all.
gpm is a session daemon, dbus is its communication method currently. If
no gnome-session, gpm will not work.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Tomas
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Arnaud Quette wrote:

> 2008/2/25, Tomáš Šafařík <safarik@...>:
>  
>> Hi,
>>
>>  I'd like to ask (or consider it as suggestion) if developers of g-p-m
>>  ever tought about idea of making g-m-p more like network-manager. I mean
>>  having independent daemon and set of clients for gnome, kde, console
>>  etc. i was thinking abut this recently and also previous Dan's email
>>  reminded me this.
>>    
>
> seconded+++
> This is not the first time I see such a request, and it would make the
> life easier for our KDE / Xfce / <insert your prefered WM / env
> here...>
>  

Agree, +1. It seems to be make sense to have such a desktop-neutral PM
daemon. Since D-Bus and hal are both desktop-neutral, desktop-neutral
g-p-m daemon is possible.As of now, an unified D-Bus interfaces
"org.freedesktop.PowerManagement" is well designed, see
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/power-management-spec-0.2.html.

This daemon must be a system-wide daemon. So, one problem I can see is
this system-wide daemon looks more like a *hal addon*. If so, why not
put into HAL directly.

I guess Richard has more ideas about the next generation of GPM, please
refer to http://live.gnome.org/BetterPowerManager. Perhaps we should add
the above request to there too.

Thanks,
-Simon

> Moreover, this would also:
> - federate the various FLOSS PM effort, and gather more resource to
> work on this,
> - solve the UPS support problem for Integrated Power Management on
> servers (so console only).
> Well I don't see the need for console support apart from the above, or
> possibly resurrecting an old laptop as a "headless" server...
>
> Maybe logging a feature request in the tracker would help.
>
> Arnaud
>  

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[Arnaud Quette]

Hi Simon,

2008/2/29, simon.zheng@... <Simon.Zheng@...>:

> Arnaud Quette wrote:
>  > 2008/2/25, Tomáš Šafařík <safarik@...>:
>  >
>  >> Hi,
>  >>
>  >>  I'd like to ask (or consider it as suggestion) if developers of g-p-m
>  >>  ever tought about idea of making g-m-p more like network-manager. I mean
>  >>  having independent daemon and set of clients for gnome, kde, console
>  >>  etc. i was thinking abut this recently and also previous Dan's email
>  >>  reminded me this.
>  >>
>  >
>  > seconded+++
>  > This is not the first time I see such a request, and it would make the
>  > life easier for our KDE / Xfce / <insert your prefered WM / env
>  > here...>
>  >
>
>
> Agree, +1. It seems to be make sense to have such a desktop-neutral PM
>  daemon. Since D-Bus and hal are both desktop-neutral, desktop-neutral
>  g-p-m daemon is possible.As of now, an unified D-Bus interfaces
>  "org.freedesktop.PowerManagement" is well designed, see
>  http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/power-management-spec-0.2.html.
>
>  This daemon must be a system-wide daemon. So, one problem I can see is
>  this system-wide daemon looks more like a *hal addon*. If so, why not
>  put into HAL directly.
>
>  I guess Richard has more ideas about the next generation of GPM, please
>  refer to http://live.gnome.org/BetterPowerManager. Perhaps we should add
>  the above request to there too.

interesting links, thanks.
I'll try to talk about this with Richard.

Arnaud
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Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
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Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
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